RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty.
March 18, 2017 at 5:47 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2017 at 5:49 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
But MK... you said knowledge was this:
But we can honestly believe something without having knowledge of anything real. We can honestly believe something and be mistaken. We can honestly believe something and be deluded. Honest belief is not knowledge. Honest belief is a necessary part of the definition but it's an incomplete and insufficent definition because belief also has to be accurate, justified and not merely accurate and justfied by accident (the Gettier problem).
And this statement...
...is stating something completely different to this statement:
...because stating that you get to knowledge via being honest with yourself is completely different to stating that the definition of knowledge is being honest with yourself.
(March 18, 2017 at 1:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I would define knowledge to be what we honestly believe.
But we can honestly believe something without having knowledge of anything real. We can honestly believe something and be mistaken. We can honestly believe something and be deluded. Honest belief is not knowledge. Honest belief is a necessary part of the definition but it's an incomplete and insufficent definition because belief also has to be accurate, justified and not merely accurate and justfied by accident (the Gettier problem).
And this statement...
(March 18, 2017 at 5:20 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I am saying when one is honest to oneself, one can distinguish between warranted justified belief and unjustified unwarranted belief.
...is stating something completely different to this statement:
(March 18, 2017 at 1:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I would define knowledge to be what we honestly believe.
...because stating that you get to knowledge via being honest with yourself is completely different to stating that the definition of knowledge is being honest with yourself.
