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Knowledge, belief, and honesty.
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RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty.
Quote:When one honestly assess what what truly believes, that is knowledge.

But simply because you honestly, truly, believe something does not mean that that particular something is true in any meaningful sense. It may indeed be knowledge, but so what? False knowledge is still false, and not terribly utilitarian.

I'll give you an example. Romans, particularly during the Regal and Republican periods, didn't believe in their gods - they knew their gods existed, in much the same way that you or I know that the sink is clogged or that your shoes are too tight. To them, Jove and Juno and Mars and all the rest were no less real than the local fishmonger or the street you had to walk to get to him. The ritual practices Romans engaged in weren't so much to appease the gods as they were a fact of life (it has been said, with significant justification, that the Roman view of religion wasn't so much about believing as it was about doing).

But regardless of the honesty, sincerity, and firm knowledge the Romans had about their gods, Jupiter still never existed.

I hope you see the distinction.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by MysticKnight - March 18, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2017 at 1:58 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Whateverist - March 18, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Minimalist - March 18, 2017 at 3:54 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Edwardo Piet - March 18, 2017 at 5:11 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by MysticKnight - March 18, 2017 at 5:20 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Edwardo Piet - March 18, 2017 at 5:39 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by MysticKnight - March 18, 2017 at 5:41 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Minimalist - March 18, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Whateverist - March 18, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by masterofpuppets - March 19, 2017 at 12:49 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Cyberman - March 19, 2017 at 6:41 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Edwardo Piet - March 19, 2017 at 9:29 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Edwardo Piet - March 18, 2017 at 5:47 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by MysticKnight - March 18, 2017 at 5:56 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Edwardo Piet - March 19, 2017 at 9:14 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Alex K - March 19, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by LastPoet - March 18, 2017 at 6:11 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2017 at 7:21 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Ravenshire - March 19, 2017 at 12:25 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Edwardo Piet - March 19, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 19, 2017 at 7:08 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Alex K - March 19, 2017 at 9:25 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2017 at 9:41 am
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by WinterHold - March 19, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by LastPoet - March 19, 2017 at 4:09 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by WinterHold - March 19, 2017 at 5:52 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by downbeatplumb - March 19, 2017 at 1:59 pm
RE: Knowledge, belief, and honesty. - by Mr Greene - March 19, 2017 at 6:49 pm

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