RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 21, 2017 at 12:58 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2017 at 1:01 pm by Brian37.)
(March 21, 2017 at 12:44 pm)SteveII Wrote:(March 21, 2017 at 11:06 am)Brian37 Wrote: Bullshit. No straw man whatsoever. Our species is much older than any written or oral tradition. Evolution is far older than any religion. Other species have been around far longer and dont create gods or religions. Cockroaches and bacteria have been around far longer and don't pray to gods or create monuments to superstitions and myths.
Nope sorry scientific method does not presuppose a damned thing. You don't get to project your horrible logic on us. Typical tactic as well. When you cant prove your argument, you accuse the other of what you do yourself. Hate to burst your bubble but all religions are in the same boat, your religion is not special. Get in line, take a number. [1]
Maybe you need to think about why YOU reject all other religions besides yours, think about that. Atheists simply reject one more than you do.[2]
1. It seems you are unfamiliar with methodological naturalism--with is by definition a presupposition. It might be justified in the lab to employ methodological naturalism, it is a not justified in the social sciences (including history and psychology). By doing so, you are making a claim about the world that you cannot prove: namely, there is no supernatural.
2. You seem to think this is an important point--wanting to put all religions in one basket. All this illustrates is that you do not know, understand, or ignore the differences between them to make a point that has no meaning.
(March 21, 2017 at 12:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Human history is a constant process of new technologies and viewpoints allowing for an expansion in the scope of our knowledge, during which time old truisms are often questioned, revised or dismissed entirely? We just happen to be at the point in that history where christianity is in the questioning/revision stage, a stage being unnecessarily elongated by theistic insistence on redefining terms to fit old ideas within the new paradigms that are arising via human progress. Go back far enough and you could make your exact same argument about geocentricity, or the four humors.
It's always amusing to me how willing christians are to treat their religion as some special unique phenomenon, when in actuality it fits very well within established trends.
What do you think is new that will be a detriment (in the long run) to Christianity?
Still not getting it. This is not about me or what I think, this is about what science has proven. And will please stop stupidly thinking it is all about your personal beliefs.
There were no religions at all 1 million years ago, much less 4 billion years ago and much less 13.8 billion years ago. If you want me to believe that in 5 billion years when our sun dies that Christianity will be the only thing left, you are a fool. There will be no Buddhism or Hinduism or Jews or Islam or any humans then. Our planet and universe were around long before humans concocted any religion and we wont be around 5 billion years from now, and our universe will continue on with absolutely no memory or record that we were even here. I am sorry you don't like that but that is your baggage.
We are finite just like trees and cockroaches and bacteria. And our planet and sun also have a shelf life. Not my fault someone sold you a bill of goods.
