What is logic?

[Little Rik]

So now we only got the consciousness left to bring a state of permanent peace of mind and it certainly can as has already been demonstrated by thousand of NDEs and it is not necessary to die first.

A temporary experience of a state of bliss is not evidence of a permanent state of bliss.  Logic fail 101.

Fail again Yog.




Thousand of NDEs experiencers clearly witness this state of permanent bliss among all those who
were already there (in heaven so to speak) and of course they experience themselves this state until they were brought back into their bodies.
That is the very reason why these people who experience that state of bliss were brought back into their bodies against their wishes.
Why would you live into a body with all the many troubles that concern when you can live free from your body into a permanent state of bliss?

You never thought about that yog, did you?  

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All of you fail once again by not using logic.       

But let us talk about facts first.
It is a fact that human are not only made of flesh.
The body-brain is a vehicle that the consciousness need and use to carry the task of progressing.
So if the body serve the master consciousness there can not be any progress in the physical-material arena.

It is also a fact that the physical-material human side is unable to bring a permanent
state of peace of mind considering that enjoyment coming from this side are not permanent and therefore need to be repeated again and again.
So now we only got the consciousness left to bring a state of permanent peace of mind and it certainly can as has already been demonstrated by thousand of NDEs and it is not necessary to die first.
Anybody who is smart enough to understand how the system works can enjoy a permanent state of bliss
and peace of mind right during this present life.

All this follow a logic line build on facts.
Facts are here and there to establish that all this is logic.

If instead you guys keep on believing that the consciousness is a product of the brain and with the physical death is all over then you will never be able to sort out how the whole system works and
will keep on floating in the ocean of dogmas where logic is totally absent.  

I think you are defining logic to be whatever you want and arguing from there, and that definition remains undisclosed. Forum rules actually state to use commonly accepted definitions, but I'm sure the administrators have made an exception for you by virtue of the fact that common definitions might be a bit beyond your scope of understanding.

There is literally nothing to refute here because your definitions for half the words you have written are probably different from common definitions. In other words, and I'm sorry to tell you this, your post devoid of any meaning whatsoever.

Total failing son.  

If those who discovered and invented something would stick with the common definitions then nothing would ever been discovered.
In the past the common belief among the masses was that the earth was flat and it was the center of the universe.
An other funny belief was that past the known world (Europe in this case) about after Portugal there was
an enormous gap and if you ever try to sail over that limit you will fall in this enormous gap and plummet into the void for ever.

This is what you want Ma?
You want people to keep on  floating in this stupid sea of dogmas for ever?  

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By bringing VALIDITY about known fact then I do fulfill the criteria of logic because it is a known fact that
material-physical things are unable to bring permanent satisfaction.
I do bring known facts that lead to conclusions therefore I follow logic.
All this should have rung a bell in your mind Atheo but if you think it didn't then you got a problem.  

This is a known fact?  If permanence is based on the person possessing it, is it a fact that something material could not satisfy someone until they die? I disagree.  That would be as permanent as you can get.

Total confusion Harry.  

Humans beside possessing a body and a brain they also possess a consciousness which like a driver tell body and brain what to do or not to do.
As far as this consciousness is weak then the body and brain tell the consciousness to shut up like in case of people addicted to something bad.
If instead the consciousness is strong then the body-brain will have to shut up and follow the consciousness directions.

And if these directions are positive that will lead to a state of bliss and peace of mind so you do not have to wait for your physical death to experience this state of bliss.

Got it?