Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?

[Jackie]

1. If you are talking about Christianity, you are painting with too broad a brush to make a point. Christianity does not attack science. Science has nothing to say about whether Christianity is true or not.

You know, Steve, I agree that many atheists have an unsophisticated grasp of Christian doctrine and imagine non-existent conflicts with natural science. At the same time, we must admit that embittered atheists like Brian are the "equal and opposite" reaction to some Christians who focus on side-issues that have nothing to do with the Cross.  Perhaps that is what you meant by "painting with a broad brush." Really, I have no quarrel even with YEC. I can grant that a literal interpretation of Genesis chapters 1-3 is possible, since most anything is possible, although I consider YEC wildly implausible. Nevertheless, as Christians we do need to clean-up our own house. Maybe then atheists like Brian would not be distracted from the saving grace available to him by all the red herrings about incompatibility with science and comparisons with other religions.

Quantum Physics is sophisticated. Old myths written by scientifically ignorant humans isn't. I can find complex story lines in Shakespeare plays, Plato's plays, even Harry Potter and Star Wars, complex fiction is still fiction. Quantum physics isn't fiction.

"Embittered"? Yep childishly attempt to paint the skeptic as an emotional reactionary. Yea ok, you act like a child when someone tells you the truth that Santa is really your parents. 

You not wanting to accept that humans didn't know any better back then is your baggage, not mine. 

Religion teaches humans to view the world through a kaleidoscope and still insist it is a telescope. Science teaches you to accept the telescope is the only real tool you need. Scientific method does not say we are or should be emotionless robots. Nor does calling bullshit bullshit make one bitter. It merely makes one blunt.

If you came up to me and repeatedly claimed "The New England Patriots beat the Chicago Cubs in the Stanley Cup" what would you have me say? That would not be a true statement. I may even like you outside that claim, but the claim itself would be bullshit. 

It is not my fault someone successfully sold you an old book of myth. No such thing as a magic baby with super powers and humans do not survive rigor mortis. Just like you already accept that Thor does not cause lightening. Instead of wrongfully getting angry at the messenger, how about you consider you got it wrong?





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