RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 24, 2017 at 12:56 pm
(March 24, 2017 at 12:30 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(March 24, 2017 at 12:17 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: We can look at your reasoning if you like. I do hope it is better than the ad hominem seen so far!
Also, if science makes a naturalistic explanation of the evidence improbable, I don't think that helps your case. It also doesn't show that it is false.
Saying "You are full of shit" is not an ad hominem. It is merely being blunt.
Me, "I can fart a full sized Lamborghini out of my ass".
Is that statement true? No? I agree, that is a bullshit claim.
Things are not true by default until proven false otherwise all god claims are equally true all at the same time. Nobody buys that logic ever. If it worked like that, since you cannot see me right now, I can fart a Lamborghini out of my ass.
"Allah is real until you prove he isn't real" still make sense? "Yahweh is real until you prove he isn't real" "still make sense? "Apollo is real until you prove he isn't" still make sense? "I am dating Angelina Jolie and unless you can prove I am not, I am". Still make sense?
Claims are not equal by default, claims are not true by default. Scientific method does not presume a damned thing as a default position and you don't simply plug anything into it just because you like it.
Christopher Hitchens, "That which can be asserted without evidence can be just as easily dismissed without evidence".
You are shifting the burden of proof and people of all religions do this when they cannot provide evidence, "Prove it isn't true". That is hardly an ad hominem to call that tactic bullshit.
On what did I shift the burden of proof? Where did I do this here?
You are making a lot of arguments, for things I never said. You however have made a number of claims, and seem to think that it is on me, to prove them false. I find this odd (given your above assertion).
And I agree, that things are not true by default, I would also add, that they are not false by default either. I find that your wild assumptions don't reflect what I believe much at all, so I don't think they apply.
