RE: What is logic?
March 25, 2017 at 6:27 am
(This post was last modified: March 25, 2017 at 6:57 am by Little Rik.)
(March 24, 2017 at 7:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:What about the thousand of other NDEs?
Were their dead brain stimulated?
No one with a 'dead brain' has ever reported an NDE. No dead person has ever had an NDE. There is no connection whatsoever between being dead and having an NDE.
Boru
So you reckon that the doctors that did declared a person dead were all drunk when the ascertained that the bloke was really dead?
Did you just wake up Bor?

(March 24, 2017 at 8:35 pm)TheAtheologian Wrote:(March 24, 2017 at 7:33 pm)Little Rik Wrote: Atheists surely do not believe in any deity but at the same time they do believe in a myriad of dogmas.
That is all atheism is, the absence of a belief in a deity, it doesn't come with other beliefs.
It is a fact that atheists load their mind with a myriad of dogmas such as those that I previously mention.
Quote:Forget about the religion which I am not interested in and rather tell me about the story that science contradict God existence.
Quote:There is not one explanation in science that involves any god, no god in a test tube. The past christian church once believed that the earth was central to the universe (including geocentric universe) and that the earth was about 6000 years old, it turns out that this wasn't true and lost to science. The current understanding shows humans to be insignificant and no evidence of a universe geared to us.
So your evidence that science deny God vanished into nothingness.

Quote:What about the thousand of other NDEs?
Quote:Again, the science is pretty consistent behind it, more NDEs occurring doesn't provide any more evidence for a soul. Just accept it, the soul is religious dogma, nothing more.
At the same time science DOES NOT provide evidence against so why don't you stop mention science
when in fact science know nothing about soul or NDEs?

Quote:Were their dead brain stimulated?
How the hell can you stimulate a dead brain?
Quote:The NDE (near death experiences) experiences didn't occur with dead brains, no evidence to suggest that.
Wrong once again Atheo.
Evidence is there At.
Doctors declared a person 100% dead so a dead brain can possibly come up with an NDE.
Quote:So now some idiot come up with the idea that Eben had an NDE because of a coma.
The idiot that came up with this garbage contradict himself.
He should have said that all those who had an NDE had a coma but even in this case he would have
been a double idiot as the NDEs come after a dead brain.
Quote:Not an idiot, its logic and science. It always wins, your beliefs lose to logic again.![]()
How the physical science win when dealing with something totally outside her competence such as the
consciousness and the NDEs experiences?
It is like to say that a carpenter is better than an electrician in fixing electrical wiring.
Are you that fool to not understand about competencies?

Quote:What science will come up with is how the system works which is that the consciousness
separate from the dead body.
Quote:Neuroscience and the logic you talk about.
No matter how many times you repeat yourself, your dogmatic beliefs aren't going to get any more true. They will continue to remain in the realm of religion but loses to science and logic.
Son.

Stop the garbage and rather try to understand what the word competencies means.

Have a good day mate.

(March 24, 2017 at 8:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(March 24, 2017 at 7:33 pm)Little Rik Wrote: As you can have a blissful vision with drugs you can also have with G-LOC or with other stimulation.
That is not the point yog.
You also can ejaculate by masturbation instead of making love but NDEs are different.
They come once the body-brain die and the consciousness separate from the dead body.
These are real experiences with God not masturbation.
More bare assertion and pulling shit from your ass. You're an idiot without a fucking clue. You have no evidence that NDEs are different from these induced experiences. You just claim that they are without any backing. Your unsupported claims aren't worth shit.
You are so stupid that you don't even deserve a reply but LR is very very patient so he will have to put up with your crap once again.



Induced experiences work on the pineal gland forcing this gland to open up and allow a blissful feeling.
In this case the consciousness does not leave the pineal gland or the body or the brain.
NDEs on the other hand are a natural phenomenon.
As soon as the body-brain die the consciousness that lie in the pineal gland separate from the dead body.
The two things have similarities in the fact that both affect the consciousness but all the rest is totally different.
Now please go back to sleep.
