RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2017 at 1:42 pm by downbeatplumb.)
(March 27, 2017 at 7:10 am)SteveII Wrote: God is not physical so has no location in space.
That is another way of saying non existent.
(March 27, 2017 at 1:34 pm)SteveII Wrote:(March 27, 2017 at 12:40 pm)ma5t3r0fpupp3t5 Wrote: Right, but those are merely conceptual ideas. They exist only as concepts within minds, not as actual things that exist independent of whether or not minds are actually around to think about them.
Do they all need a mind? Do you think that in all possible worlds (including those without minds) that if P then Q; P therefore Q would not be the case? Most think that the applicability of mathematics would exists even if a mind never contemplated them.
Your real conundrum will be that your sole source of knowledge, science, presupposes logic, mathematics, and philosophy. If it presupposes them, where did they come from? If you say science somehow validates them, that would be question-begging. Even if you can't figure that out, the fact that science says they exists give us a clear case for their independent existence.
The scientific method is the only method that works without and indeed against pre-conceived ideas. that's largely what the scientific method is.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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