RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 27, 2017 at 4:44 pm
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2017 at 4:57 pm by SteveII.)
(March 27, 2017 at 4:27 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:(March 27, 2017 at 2:40 pm)SteveII Wrote: That, in a nutshell, is the fine-tuning argument. We are not interested in why this universe exists, but why a life-permitting one exists. As in the drawing above, we have very good reasons to think the universe was rigged for life.
Could you please elaborate on what those very good reasons are. In addition, supposing that the universe was rigged for life, how can you be sure that the Christian deity, and not some other deity (or some other life-form for that matter), is actually responsible?
First, none of these arguments will get you to the God of the Bible. They only get you to a God with a list of properties that the arguments themselves infer. To get to the God of the Bible , you need additional information. The arguments can be summed up in this quick video:
(March 27, 2017 at 4:05 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Strong fine-tuning is a thought experiment in a universe where it's not even known that the constants involved could have been different, that they aren't interrelated, etc. We're not in the position of being able to declare the odds are long...we don't even know if there is more than one 'lottery ticket', or if there are lots with the same numbers on them. We can only speculate.
Can you share a link by a physicist/cosmologist that discusses the universe's initial constants could have been a large range of values and still been life-permitting? Everything I have ever read says the opposite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned...e#Examples.
