(July 10, 2011 at 1:57 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So, the fog that became synonymous with London had nothing to do with the amount of soot in the air...nothing at all? It's not an example of ACC, even on a small scale?Look, London was already accustomed to thick fogs, know why? Because after WW2 it was an economic necessity to import cheap crap coal from abroad (mainly Poland) which meant that better-quality 'hard' Welsh coals were exported, which increased the amount of sulphur dioxide in the smoke, consequently while coal-fired power stations at Battersea *reduced the output of soot* to the best of our knowledge it was at the cost of *increased sulphur dioxide*. Additionally, after WW2 the electric tram system was abandoned, this meant a substantial increase in vehicle exhaust from the diesel-fuelled buses which had replaced the trams. Soot was a contributing factor, but not responsible for the great smog alone.
And since when was air pollution an example of climate change? You have to be messing with me. Next minute you'll be arguing the radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl disaster is an example of human-induced climate change. Believe me, I won't be sticking around if you do.
(July 10, 2011 at 2:51 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Wait - so human produced pollutants (SO2) in an environment had no effect in the winter of 1952? If they did not, then humans are not to blame.The anticyclone settled over a windless London, causing a temperature inversion, this collected the airborne pollutants already present in the air over the city to form a *thicker layer of smog* over the city.
Please clarify.
The airborne pollutants did NOT induce the anticyclone. The air pollution did NOT influence the weather. The weather influenced the airborne pollutants to form the thicker than usual layer of smog. As soon as the weather changed the smog dispersed quickly. To imply otherwise is to make a horribly invalid causal connection.
And WTF Moros? Why kudos Rhythm's response if you're asking me for clarification because you supposedly didn't understand my previous post? Are you being serious with me? 0_o
