RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 30, 2017 at 10:31 am
(March 30, 2017 at 10:14 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(March 30, 2017 at 9:57 am)SteveII Wrote: First, you have obviously not read back through the posts for the past 9 pages.
Yes, the initial constants could have been different. There is nothing that makes them the way they are. That is not debated. Therefore, the universe is NOT the way it is out of necessity.
I think this also brings up an interesting question from a teleological perspective. Are the laws of physics emergent (properties of matter itself) or are they governed by something greater and existing before the matter of the universe was formed? To put it another way; does the material conform to the laws of physics, or is physics based on the material?
The "laws" are descriptive, not proscriptive.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam