RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 30, 2017 at 10:50 am
(March 30, 2017 at 10:39 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(March 30, 2017 at 10:11 am)Brian37 Wrote:
Glad you agree that "fine tuning" does not prove a particular specific god claim. GREAT, you are almost there.
Now, what I am about to ask you, you need to ask yourself and be intellectually brave. I am not about to ask you what you believe.
I am asking you to ask yourself now, before you answer me, take your time, be willing to look in the mirror.
Ask yourself WHY you feel the need for a god, WHY you feel the need for a forever? What do you think would suddenly change if you figured out there was no god and we are finite and there is no forever? Do you think you would instantly go up in flames? If you don't think Allah or Pele would punish you what would make you think any god, much less yours, is really there to threaten or bribe you?
Before you answer, the question is not WHAT, but WHY you feel the need to believe? Think about it before you respond. Why are you not concerned with all the other god/deity claims you rightfully reject? Why don't you feel threatened by their god/s? Why would life after you die feel any different than it did 5 million years ago before you were born?
Again, WHY, is the issue, not WHAT but WHY do you feel it would be so horrible to know this is it?
A bit of a change of topic.
But, you mention "feelings" quite a few times there, and I wouldn't answer your "why" question like that. Your questions seem loaded with assumptions, that do not reflect me.
Nice doge, but don't feel bad, most believers never try to tackle that question.
AGAIN, you refuse to answer the why to yourself because you are afraid that will destroy your illusion.
You already agreed that the "fine tuning" does not point to a specific deity/god/s/God.
I agree, it does not.
So again, why do you feel the need to plop any god claim into the gap? It seems to me you already rightfully reject all other claims besides the one you feel you need. Funny how you don't feel the need to believe all the ones you rightfully reject. I am being very fair to you because my question is the same regardless of religion.
Why do you feel the need to select the one you did? Not what, but why? Why do you not worry about being punished by Allah, or Yahweh or Pele? Why are you not afraid of your pre life? You didn't exist 5 million years ago.
Do you think anything horrible will happen to you if you suddenly figure out this is it?
