RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 30, 2017 at 11:25 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2017 at 11:31 am by Brian37.)
(March 30, 2017 at 11:20 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(March 30, 2017 at 10:31 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: The "laws" are descriptive, not proscriptive.
Can you prove that? Probably not, since nominalism, which is from where that notion comes, is self-defeating.
Can you prove that Allah didn't do it?
Can you prove Yahweh didn't do it?
Can you prove Brahma didn't do it?
Nope sorry, not our job to prove anything. We are not claiming any type of deity created the laws of the universe.
(March 30, 2017 at 11:23 am)SteveII Wrote:(March 30, 2017 at 10:14 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I think this also brings up an interesting question from a teleological perspective. Are the laws of physics emergent (properties of matter itself) or are they governed by something greater and existing before the matter of the universe was formed? To put it another way; does the material conform to the laws of physics, or is physics based on the material?
A finite mind would have had the physical laws in mind before creating matter. But I suppose an omniscient mind could have put that together simultaneously.
Bullshit. Trees don't have brains and funny how you don't think a tree god created them. A finite mind. Nope, there is just your brain in motion. Our consciousness does not survive us. Once your brain dies your consciousness dies, you die, it is the end of you. There is no "forever" not for humans, not for trees, not even for our planet or sun.
Funny how we never see a decapitated human come back to life. Try blowing up your car(dont try that at home), and see if you can drive it right after you blow it up.
