RE: Why them and not you?
March 30, 2017 at 10:30 pm
(This post was last modified: March 31, 2017 at 10:39 am by Whateverist.)
(March 30, 2017 at 10:21 am)MysticKnight Wrote: You don't believe Theists when they testify they know God exists. I understand that and you shouldn't simply believe due to their testification.
But why should Theists take seriously that you actually are justified in not believing in God?
I seriously doubt anyone cares how you or anyone else judge our indifference to god claims. We're not looking for that from you. What exactly is it you're looking for from us?
(March 30, 2017 at 10:21 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Why should we not believe it's the fault of yours and not God's or anyone else?]
No one cares which you believe. It isn't really any of your business.
(March 30, 2017 at 10:21 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Why should we take your testification that you sincerely sought to know whether God exists or not seriously?
That makes us even. We don't take your god claims seriously either.
(March 30, 2017 at 8:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: In my experience,
Atheists haven't deeply thought of the following:
1. What makes us who we are
Assumes there is something which intends us to be a certain way. You're assuming what you're trying so hard to convince us of rather than arguing for it honestly.
(March 30, 2017 at 8:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: 2. What is the mysterious nature of love.
3. What is the language of love
4. What is to be truly valued and have worth.
5. What is free-will
6. What is perception
7. What is justice
8. Most philosophical arguments that assert to prove God haven't been given their due.
9. What is that we appreciate and praise
10. What is reason
11. What is goodness
12. Most of all, what is love.
These questions are essential to humanity.
They may be of interest to humanity but that doesn't mean we can't get along without good answers to them or that good answers are a sure thing. In all of this you're assuming everything has a hidden meaning which is its essence. I don't start out assuming any such thing.
(March 30, 2017 at 8:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Religion wise and their hostility towards religion:
1. Emphasize on differences without seeing the underlying mysterious unity of religions in the essential teachings and doctrines of what makes us human.
2. Leadership and the underlying agreement of religions on the characteristics of those worthy of leading us to God.
3. Haven't thought really what the Creator is capable of in proving his religion through literature.
4. Haven't thought of the need to have a rope from God and handhold to hold on to with all the confusing mess of diverging paths and thoughts
And I think a lot of religions have come with an agreement to much of these questions and are agreement that eternal divine being is the source of light.
Not really surprising (my bolded). What they have in common after all is taking the idea of a god seriously.