RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
April 1, 2017 at 6:07 pm
(March 31, 2017 at 4:54 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(March 31, 2017 at 4:46 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Perhaps you should try to actually address what people are saying. Or we can look at what you are claiming if you prefer. I think it is a bunch of bad logic and incorrect thinking.... but we can examine it more closely.
Why? Ochams razor does not need convoluted arguments.
Your choices are.
1. There really is a divine/spirit/god world.
Or.
2. Humans make them up.
Out of those choices which seems to be more likely? Is it likely Apollo is real or made up? Is it likely that Thor is real or made up? Would using fine tuning convince you of those gods? No? Why not? If it works for you and is an unbias tactic then it should work for everyone who wants to use it including any other religion.
Now, think about all the dead mythologies and other god claims and religions you don't buy. Why is it you reject all others besides yours? If using science to argue for another religion doesn't convince you to convert to another religion, why should I give you any special treatment?
If others here want to wade through your bad tactic sentence by sentence, they are more than welcome to. I am simply cutting to the chase, and trying to jar you out of your fantasy at a quicker pace.
What you don't seem to understand, and I think just about everyone has pointed out to you; is that this is just a generic argument for a God/god. Be it a deistic God, or another one. All you are doing is showing your ignorance. Now one of the things you may notice, if you think about the various fallacies, is that a good many of them are fallacious, because they don't deal with the reasons for or offer any reasons against. This is largely what you are doing here. You are avoiding the argument, and I might at keep appealing to feelings. That's not going to cut it. Your question of why I reject other gods, and the science doesn't convince me of them... is moot. That is because you don't understand the reasons being put forth, and are just making yourself look foolish.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther