RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
April 1, 2017 at 8:34 pm
(April 1, 2017 at 6:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(April 1, 2017 at 6:07 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: What you don't seem to understand, and I think just about everyone has pointed out to you; is that this is just a generic argument for a God/god. Be it a deistic God, or another one. All you are doing is showing your ignorance. Now one of the things you may notice, if you think about the various fallacies, is that a good many of them are fallacious, because they don't deal with the reasons for or offer any reasons against. This is largely what you are doing here. You are avoiding the argument, and I might at keep appealing to feelings. That's not going to cut it. Your question of why I reject other gods, and the science doesn't convince me of them... is moot. That is because you don't understand the reasons being put forth, and are just making yourself look foolish.
I was born at night, just not last night. Been at this for 16 years. "Generic" is a temporary tactic to distract to eventually draw you back to their specific club/deity when they cant make a direct appeal, "Am not arguing my club".
Ok fine.
Science=generic "deistic" God/god still suffers the same problem still competing with those with a particular named club.
Still the same lack of evidence as the specific Allah/Yahweh/Jesus/Buddha/Brahama.
Now what?
Brian,
It doesn't matter what you imagine are my tactics, intentions, or motivations. Because yet again, this is just a diversion away from the argument. Perhaps you prefer to argue for what you imagine, rather than what is being said. It does make it easier to knock down.
Quote:Quote: Your question of why I reject other gods, and the science doesn't convince me of them...is moot
Code for "I don't have to explain to you why I reject all those others".
Again you are making up, and putting words in my mouth. (My guess is because is, because you don't want to deal with what is actually being said). I won't speak for the others, but at the moment, I don't want to follow a red herring to a different topic. Some would use this, to avoid the particular conclusions being discussed at the moment.
Quote:Not on a message board no. But in a real lab compare and contrast are what control groups are for, and what independent peer review is for, IN A REAL LAB. You without realizing it,or flat out lying and don't care, are suffering from selection bias and sample rate error. I could care less if you want to now cop out to a "generic god".
No the reason you rejection all those other claims besides your own personal belief is that you, like everyone else is not willing to admit it still ultimately amounts to "I like my own personal position". Yea, so what. So do most of the 7 billion humans with all sorts of specific or, "generic" god beliefs. Your position is very relevant just like anyone else trying to say science points to their personal claim. We are all entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts. So again, if you had anything, it could be neutrally compared without your own personal bias creeping in. So if you are truly being objective you and you think you are on the right track, you should not be afraid of using those other claims as part of a larger sample to compare to. If you compare your own claim as part of a larger sample and others can replicate the same data/method and come to the same conclusion, then you prove yourself right. Being stuck in your own echo chamber proves nothing.
Just a note, but the topics we are discussing aren't done in a lab. And yet again, you feel the need to tell me my reasons, and ignore the ones I and others have given..... You seem to imagine a lot of reasons, to avoid this topic. I don't even believe you understand what it is yet.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther