RE: A simple question for theists
April 3, 2017 at 2:22 pm
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2017 at 2:27 pm by Brian37.)
(April 3, 2017 at 2:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(April 3, 2017 at 1:52 pm)masterofpuppets Wrote: What you are essentially expressing here is that you do not trust God if he tells you to do something you feel is wrong. Isn't that contradictory to your belief that God is the perfect moral standard for everything? If you claim that God is just "testing" you, how would you be sure that's the case?
Apart from that, I generally find your answer quite insightful.
Again, I trust the God that I believe is real. The God that is Himself goodness and love, and who created morality through establishing Natural Law in this world.
IF God wanted me to kill an innocent person, I would know that this is not the God that I thought existed and that I worship and that I trust. And for reasons I explained above, nothing would make sense to me at that point. It wouldn't simply be God wanting me to kill someone. It would be "Holy crap, everything I thought I knew about the world and about reality has been turned on its head!"
It's much deeper and more complicated than you're giving us credit for.
Yes we get that you believe so what? Most humans never bother to ask themselves why they feel the need to believe in any god/s deities/spirits.
10,000 years of written claims of all sorts of claims worldwide in our species history. Not what, but why do you feel the need to believe? Do you think your life would be different? Do you think you'll suddenly burst into flames? Do you really think life after you die will feel any different than it did before you were born 5 million years ago? Do you think if you suddenly realized there is no such thing you wont be able to feel love or do good?
50 million to 60 million humans on average die worldwide from everything per year. That is half a billion in 10 years and 1 billion deaths every 20 years. If you don't mourn the death of a tree or bush or fish or cockroach what makes you think humans are any different? Why would this allegedly all powerful being give much more time to other species prior to ours for billions of years? Why put humans into evolution only 150,000 years ago in ignorance with no ability to even write? Then wait until only 10,000 years ago to suddenly say something? Then even up to today have humans murder over these competing claims? Seems totally inefficient to me if one wants to claim an "all powerful" being,
Seems to me science is pointing to all this being here with no help, and that if we want to extend our finite ride we should be relying on other humans, not old myths.
