A simple question for theists

[Drich]

2 Tim chapter 3 starting @ 10 and going though chapter 4 ending at 8
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

There is a whole set up to this back of scripture. I do not understand why the chapter ended early/mid point. Anyway the crux of what is being discussed is where timothy can find the discernement he may need to navigate all the negitiv influences Paul is writing him about. This can be found in verse 16

16 All Scripture is given by God. (not just OT, as we live under the NT we are responsible for that as it has since been deemed Christian Scripture.) And all Scripture is useful for teaching and for showing people what is wrong in their lives. It is useful for correcting faults and teaching the right way to live. 17 Using the Scriptures, those who serve God will be prepared and will have everything they need to do every good work.

17 kinda sums it all up. If we seek to do a good work under God/a Work God would have us do, then it must by the book/scripture it must be done.

This is also supported in chapter 4:3 forward in that Paul identifies that their will be a time when people will want to stop listening the truth Timothy has derived from the scriptures, but Paul encourages him to stay the course even thought people aren't going to like what he has to say.

better yet in:
2peter 1:19 through the end of chapter 3

Peter illustrates by identifying false teachers of his day by using scripture against what these false teachers do and say. by the scripture he is able to identify several different sins from which these teachers build their ministries from.

So from Paul the over all "If you want to do a good deed for God a deed in which God has purposed for you (meaning along the lines of a life calling) then it is from the scripture (ALL OF IT NOT JUST THE OT) can you find ALL The info you need to COMPLETE Your task.

Then Peter delivers a sermon using what paul said to identify what plagued his own church/ministry. And He showed his congregation how 'false teachers' do not measure up against scripture.

First of all, none of this is God speaking, so no He didn't tell us not to accept any further revelations.  The passage in 2 Timothy indicates that the bible is sufficient, not that it is complete.  That's your own conclusion which you are adding to the text.  The text doesn't say anything about it being a complete set of God's revelations.  Since God does in fact order the killing of people in the bible, it's strictly your interpretation that the ordering of another killing would be contrary to what is in the bible.  In that I think you are wrong.  You simply used this 'no new revelations' line as a dodge to avoid answering the question.  Scripture doesn't back you up.

I beg to differ. "All scripture is God breathed..." Or did you purposely ignore that bit in 2tim 3:16???
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

I know depending on your translation you will get sufficient, but the passage I left you intentionally says it is "useful" and then tells you how it is use full. In that In order to The good works God has prepared for you to do over the span of your life you will need this book in every aspect of it. So again and in short if you are looking to do the Good God has set aside for you to do it is from the bible that will define it. IF your intentions is to do The Good God have you do then the scripture is indeed complete "as you will have everything you need to do EVERY good work." That's if and again you are serving the God of the bible and the work He have you do. For anyother purpose you are right the bible is not complete.

All Scripture is given by God. And all Scripture is useful for teaching and for showing people what is wrong in their lives. It is useful for correcting faults and teaching the right way to live. Using the Scriptures, those who serve God will be prepared and will have everything they need to do every good work.

The text doesn't say anything about it being a complete set of God's revelations.

 
In Fact it does. The very end of 17 it says the scripture is everything.. what is complete besides all you need? If the scripture is all we need to do every Good deed the Lord has prepared for us, then what else is needed if as you say the word/scripture is incomplete?

Since God does in fact order the killing of people in the bible,

No mam, OT shows God commanding to Kill.. We do not live under that OT covenant. We live under the New Covenant, and as such do not have one single example of God commanding we kill anyone under this covenant.

it's strictly your interpretation that the ordering of another killing would be contrary to what is in the bible.

Simply show me some book chapter and verse and I will happily reconsider my position on NT 'Killing.' Otherwise acknowledge there isn't a NT precedent that allows for NT killings.

 In that I think you are wrong.

 without scriptural precedent it really doesn't matter what you 'think.' We/Nonjews can only worship God through the covenant of the NT. In order to do so we must have scriptural example/backing to vet a rule or method of worship.. otherwise it is not the God of the bible we worship is it?

You simply used this 'no new revelations' line as a dodge to avoid answering the question.Scripture doesn't back you up.

Then simply rephrase the question. if scripture back you up would you kill on God's behalf.

Otherwise the word is pretty solvent on one's ability to worship God only using the bible/scripture to do it.

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"Thou shalt not murder" seems to apply. So, not murdering a person would in fact be obeying God. Since it is possible that your hypothetical personal instructions might be misunderstood, not originating from God, or a product of a mental defect, I would say not murdering is the right things to do. So, no dilemma, no contradiction.

I love the way you clowns twist your scrotums into pretzels trying to explain why your fucking "god" is such a piss-poor communicator.  Maybe you need a better "god?"

What's to understand?

Love God with all of your Heart, MIND Spirit and strength.

So people's minds allow them a deeper understanding than others, so for them they are to extend that love to the mind's capacity.

Like wise If a man's strength is greater than that man is to work Harder for God.

And so one and so fourth with Heart and Spirit.

This put the church constantly going in 4 different directions at once. To the single minded (people like you) what we do looks like a mess, and guys like you rarly get it.

God gets it even if you or sometime ourselves do not.

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Nowhere in the bible does your god address Christians, tis a jewish book.

God the son dominates the 'talking to Christians potion' of the first 4 book then after Acts 2 God the Holy spirit takes over. Then As the Spirit points out in the passage of 1tim 3:16-17 ALL of scripture is God breathed.
So yeah.. God does talk to Christians in the NT.

You can find all the bits where he orders murder or commits it itself but I will mention some of the highlights,

Ask for Christian examples sport.

The flood

wiped away an evil the world has never known since then.

Soddom
Gomorrah

was sent a prophet to warn people..

Abrahams son.

??? Ishmael lived. Isaac was never in any danger. God wanted Isaac to see the type of man he needed to be.

The Passover

No one was order to kill anyone

The Amalekites

where the ISIS/Somlie pirates of their day... Why not try some apples to apples comparesons.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Amalekites.html

Now jesus did quite a bit of threatening gods wrath in the new testament but this seems to be more like someone saying their dad is tougher than your dad.

Look it up, he was a git. (or written as a git by whoever made him up, really it makes no never mind whether he was an actual person or a figment, the results are the same)

and you d-bags wonder where I "Git" it from