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There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it?
(April 4, 2017 at 10:00 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 4, 2017 at 9:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The argument I will summarize:

Worship means what is Valued Most.
We know Worship ought to be Sacred.
Without God, Worship is not sacred.

A brief proof of 2nd premise:

Without God, we ourselves become the central focus of value, and naturally feel ashamed of what woshiping ourselves.
We should not feel ashamed of what we value most.
We should feel ashamed of worshiping ourselves and petty things like wealth, prestige, sex, etc....

Therefore we know worship out to be sacred.

The conclusion we know God exists naturally follows.

But aside from that, even if you reject that, was has been proven right from the start, there is no such thing as Atheism by definition.


Then you worship intelligence, I hope the intelligence you worship is not Dawkin's level, that would be pretty petty.
Special definitions at play, eh? Okay, "Mystic Knight" is another word for repressed sadomasochistic desires directed toward gerbils.

Now go have a ham sandwich and relax.

It's the definition of how the Bible and Quran operates. You can't understand anything from those books, and what it talks about, if you don't understand we cannot but value something the most.  No matter how much we circularly try to define ourselves out of it or define religion. Religion is define with respect to worship, to say it's worship when coupled with religious value and devotion, is simply not how Quran or Bible discusses the issue, and they are right as that would be circular definition.

The way the issue is defined is something everyone very well understood, you are bound to value something very highly.  The mother of all idols is the false self (satanic inspired false you).
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RE: There is no doubt a god, the question is what is it? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2017 at 10:07 pm

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