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I would believe in God if...
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RE: I would believe in God if...
If any prt of the story even made any sense at all I might possibly still be an agnostic theist.

God created the universe just to eventually create us... for what? To "enjoy" the earth and worship him? So god is such an all-knowing, powerful being yet he needs little minions to stroke his ego? Why is there evil in the world? To test us? Why do we need to be tested? Why do we need to be here in the first place?

And Christians will say things like, "Well god wanted us to enjoy his creation because he loves us."

But then how did he love us if we did not yet exist? Well then of course they say, "God lives outside of time so blah blah blah blah"


It's such cyclical logic that it's hard to understand why anyone believes this crap.

It makes much more sense that the universe is indifferent to our existence. It's not "luck" either. One thing we do know is that the universe seems to, most of the time, operate under strict "rules" and processes. The conditions happened to be right for life to flourish on earth and so it did, according to the "rules" of nature. And maybe all of this is part of some larger, cosmic thing that we don't yet understand but at the end of the day I see no logical reason to assert that "because god" is a suitable solution. 

Life is awesome and beautiful in so many ways but the more you examine things the more you start to realize that this whole god nonsense is simply unnecessary. There's no need for any of it to explain why life is beautiful or why nature is amazing and fascinating.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.

It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.

Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll


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