RE: What is logic?
April 8, 2017 at 8:19 am
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2017 at 9:07 am by Little Rik.)
(April 7, 2017 at 10:17 am)Incognito Wrote: Logic only explains how A goes to B
The Theists argue that because the Atheist's can't define logic, we are wrong, therefore God, when the Theists can't even explain what A and B is in the first place.
According to you, logic is only logic when the A and B goes along with your definitions.
Actually I am not interested in A and B.
I am rather interested in A and Z.
A as the beginning of my attempt to reach the apex of human emancipation and Z as the arrival point.
A to B is only a small step but A to Z represent the full distance.
(April 7, 2017 at 9:39 pm)AceBoogie Wrote: lol LIL RICKs version of logic is as follows
1. Materialistic pursuits don't lead to happiness
2. Therefore god
That is your conclusion Ace.
My conclusion instead is different.
Considering that the materialistic pursuit can not lead to peace of mind the smart person reorganize and change tactic so if the external approach doesn't work then the smart person will try the internal approach.
God come later.
God doesn't appear as per magic just because someone divert the approach from external to internal.
It may take a minute a lifetime or many many life times.
It is all up to the interest that someone put into the mystic side of the whole.
Never the less by diverting the approach from external to internal a person start the great journey of discovering the self.
(April 7, 2017 at 7:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:Quote:(13) But if encounters with conscious plants, talking insects, and dead celebrities doesn't give you pause about accepting NDEs as visions of an objective afterlife reality, perhaps NDEs that include encounters with fictional characters will. Morse reports that a 10-year-old boy had an NDE where he encountered a video-gaming wizard who loved Nintendo and said to him: "Struggle and you shall live" (Abanes 116). Karl Jansen similarly reports finding childhood NDEs that include encounters with video game and comic book characters:
Claims that near-death experiences are always identical, regardless of the set and setting, are contradicted by the variety actually found in published reports. They differ between people and cultures. For example, instead of a tunnel and angels, East Indians may describe the River Ganges and a particular guru. A child having a NDE may "see" his or her still-living friends and teachers, or Nintendo and comic book characters, rather than God (Jansen 96).
https://infidels.org/library/modern/keit...HNDEs.html
A Reply to Shermer, Medical Evidence for NDEs, by Dr. Pim van Lommel In his "Skeptic" column in Scientific American in March, 2003, Michael Shermer cited a research study published in The Lancet, a leading medical journal, by Pim van Lommel and colleagues. He asserted this study "delivered a blow" to the idea that the mind and the brain could separate. Yet the researchers argued the exact opposite, and showed that conscious experience outside the body took place during a period of clinical death when the brain was flatlined. As Jay Ingram, of the Canadian Discovery Channel, commented: "His use of this study to bolster his point is bogus. He could have said, 'The authors think there's a mystery, but I choose to interpret their findings differently'. But he didn't. I find that very disappointing" (Toronto Star, March 16, 2003). Here, Pim van Lommel sets out the evidence that Shermer misrepresented.
http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/Articles/Skeptics_Corner.htm