(April 8, 2017 at 9:57 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Your claim is that you are on reason and logic, like every other religion claims.
Note I also said "evidence". Does every other religion make the claim it is based on evidence? Evidence matters as well.
Quote:I post threads to show proofs of my claims and you guys get upset if I show the strength of conviction in them.
What threads exactly? I've seen your threads in which you make some arguments for God, but nothing compelling.
Quote:If people are silent, you say, they have no proofs or they would present them.
I'm not sure I remember ever saying that.
Quote:And if they are presented, they are dismissed even if they should not be.
They're dismissed probably because they're not compelling at all. When I personally look at your arguments, I don't see logically sound arguments (or even logically valid arguments, for that matter). I see instead desperation. You, MK, come off as really desperate.
Quote:How about this? Go the backward approach like the thread I showed. Go "If God is real, and we are connected to him by his name, how can we unveil his name and recognize his religion?".... You will say there is all sorts of interpretations of each religion. So I will show you a way to distinguish false claims from right ones.
No, forget your backward approach. I'd have to accept first the premise that God exists.
Quote:Let us open a thread about going backward approach and actually applying it, I made a thread about it in theory, we can go this backward approach... work like Science assume a hypothesis just for the sake of gathering evidence, and then try to disprove it.
I really doubt you see God as a falsifiable hypothesis, MK. So no.
Quote:You can't begin to truly know a religion unless you know who truly understands it and represents it and believes in it all together as it's meant to. Otherwise, like Atheists always point out, you get into a mess....
A mess of what? Also, do you really think you're the first theist to tell me I can't truly begin to understand some religion unless I go through them first? Don't flatter yourself too much, you're not that special.
Quote:So let's find out who represents Islam out of all those claiming to represent it and all leaders claiming to teach it.
Let me guess: MK, the one and only?
Quote:It will be fun, and you have nothing to lose, but gaining a way to distinguish falsehood from a truth in a certain paradigm.
Somehow I'm suspecting it's not going to be fun, and I'm going to be wasting a lot of my precious time going through a lot of nonsense with you. So I pass.
Quote:You may not find the truth unless you enter many doors at once, perhaps, God is not truly knowable without recognize his leader and guide, and that is not knowable unless we recognize who we truly are.
Right ... this is starting to get disturbing.
Quote:If you want my help in this journey let me know. I know I haven't been doing a good job and been lousy, but I am trying my best, is all I can say.
No thanks. I'm not so gullible as to fall for your nonsense. Been there before, never again.
