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What is logic?
RE: What is logic?
(April 8, 2017 at 6:30 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: A near-death experience is the reported memory of all impressions during a special state of consciousness, including specific elements such as out-of-body experience, pleasant feelings, and seeing a tunnel, a light, deceased relatives, or a life review.
~ Pim van Lommel, noted NDE expert


You see a contradiction between my statements and Van Lommel statement.
I don't.
Where is the contradiction Yog?  I'm all ears!

A special state of consciousness doesn't have necessary be a state in which the consciousness is still inside the brain so to speak.
Van Lommel does not say whether the consciousness is still inside the brain or it has separated from it and beside when he say.........the reported memory.... that doesn't mean that the remember of that experience must come from the brain.

Fail again Yog.  Banghead

(April 8, 2017 at 11:58 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(April 8, 2017 at 9:41 am)Little Rik Wrote: FOOL.

You presume that an NDE can happen when a patient is not having a flatlined ECG.
Wrong presumption Yog.  Banging Head On Desk

In that case you have an hallucination not a real NDE because the consciousness hasn't separated from the body-brain yet.
Only when you get a fletlined ECG you can have an NDE experience.
This yog show how ignorant you are on the issue.  Smile

The Near-Death Experience (NDE) may be defined as "A lucid experience associated with perceived consciousness apart from the body occurring at the time of actual or threatened imminent death."
~ Dr. Jeffrey Long, founder of NDERF


If you read these experiences you will find that these people who had an NDE really died during such an experience.
So far I haven't read any example of a person that had an NDE when he-she was threatened with imminent death but again the fear of death could have be fatal to that person and he-she may have really died after that scare.
Here once again there is no contradiction with my previous statements.
Only fools see one.  Smile


Quote:A near-death experience, or NDE, is a profound psychological event that may occur to a person close to death or who is not near death but in a situation of physical or emotional crisis. Being in a life-threatening situation does not, by itself, constitute a near-death experience. It is the pattern of perceptions, creating a recognizable overall event, that has been called “near-death experience.”
~ International Association Of Near Death Studies
Making up your own definitions when you get cornered again.  It's pathetic.


How stupid can you be yog.  Banging Head On Desk

You go looking and looking day and night with a torch for statements that may contradict me and then you lift up the flag of victory saying that because this or that person got a different opinion I am wrong.
We got a myriad of opinions for and against that doesn't mean that because a particular opinion doesn't agree with me I am wrong.
To find me wrong you got to produce evidence that I am really wrong not coming up with someone opinion that say that I am wrong.

You never thought about that Yog, did you?   Confused Fall
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