(April 20, 2017 at 10:12 am)Little Rik Wrote:(April 19, 2017 at 10:07 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You're a fucking moron. If the brain is dead then there is no coming back from the experience to tell an NDE you stupid cluck. That's the contradiction between what you're saying and what happens. An NDE cannot happen when the brain is dead because then it wouldn't be a NEAR death experience but an ACTUAL death experience. So no, it doesn't depend upon any "situation" you clueless moron.
Imbecile.
Read my previous post in which I do explained to Brian how the term NDE is wrong.
Quote:OR it clearly means that they hallucinate seeing their bodies (see here for examples of out-of-body discrepancies). You BELIEVE that they are actually seeing their bodies from outside of them. Your 'belief' doesn't count for shit when we have clear evidence that these experiences are generated by the brain itself and have nothing to do with any consciousness separating from the body. Yours is just a claim that consciousness separates from the body. You keep making this claim and when asked to back it up you disingenuously point to a website filled with irrelevant NDE accounts and ask us to go digging. That's bullshit, that's not providing evidence for your claim. As can be seen from the evidence linked above, OBEs are CLEARLY hallucinations.
Double imbecile.
You give me evidence that a brain in trouble is able to produce such clear, sharp and vivid experiences and I will cover you in 24 carat gold.
Quote:Yet another claim without backing. You've been repeatedly informed that G induced loss of consciousness and also the drug ketamine can produce clear, sharp, and vivid hallucinations which are similar to those experienced in an NDE (here, here, and here). So you know that it's not only possible, but actual.
Idiot.
Similar doesn't mean the same.
In those cases the consciousness is forced to open up to allow some bliss.
This is not natural.
It is similar to a masturbation therefore will cause side effect to body and mind.
NDEs instead are natural phenomena and do not produce side effects.
Quote:You just keep repeating the same claims over and over again, and never answer the contrary evidence. It's either because you're a dishonest ass, or because you're too stoopid to learn from experience. Either way, I don't care. It's nothing but lying as far as I'm concerned.
If you guys keep on asking the same questions is obvious that I will answer the same thing.
I guess you never thought about that Yog, did you?
Quote:You go fuck yourself.
Look Yog when you are having personal problems with your partner please seek counsel advise.
I can't help with that.
And after all your nonsense posts, it still amounts to you not wanting to face your finite existence. I am sorry it bothers you that there is no more you after you die, but not our baggage you don't want to face that reality.
I live fine knowing I won't be forever. I might fear a prolonged pain sure. I will fear missing my loved ones and friends, but after I am dead, all that fear and pain will not exist. It will feel the same as it did when I didn't exist 4 billion years ago.
You are your brain in motion, that's it. Once you die beyond the window you stay dead. Your consciousness is your brain in motion. You brain dies no more you.