RE: What is logic?
April 22, 2017 at 11:56 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm by Angrboda.)
(April 22, 2017 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote:(April 21, 2017 at 5:53 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(April 21, 2017 at 11:07 am)Little Rik Wrote: They surely think that those experiences are real but if they would have an NDE they surely would realize that an NDE is the real real experience.
100% real compare to maybe 1% real.
Wrong again.
Quote:I had an NDE about 6 days before the first time I took ketamine because my then partner died. ... I had acquired the "K" (ketamine) a week previously for the party, but didn't do it until a few days after she died. It was the first time I had taken "K". ... It was like a way out and it was exactly like the out-of-body thing. ... I tried "K" again quite a number of times and the same thing happened every time. It was like this pure consciousness. I hadn't any shape. You could fly and you could actually travel although you are still in the same place. You are in the place where everybody is who has ever died.
http://www.near-death.com/science/halluc...-ndes.html
You must be a total nutcase Yog. not to know the difference between a masturbation and
making love.
By using Ketamine you force the pineal gland to do things against his wishes while an NDE is something natural in which God teach you something.
A trip caused by ketamine teach you absolutely nothing.
All you experience are hallucinations.
Nothing to do with God teaching.
In a NDE you are dead.
In a ketamine trip you are still alive.
By forcing the consciousness to act in a unnatural way a lot of negative things can happen.
Seeing that the original statement that spawned this is the following:
(April 21, 2017 at 4:27 am)Lucanus Wrote:(April 19, 2017 at 7:46 pm)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong again Luc.
When you have a malfunction in the brain you can not build up a clear, sharp and vivid experience.
This statement is demonstrably false. People who take hallucinogenic drugs (such as LSD or Ketamin) very often report clear sharp and vivid experiences... But those are the experiences of a malfunctioning brain!
All of the above bullshit reply is beside the point. The question was whether a malfunctioning brain can "build up a clear, sharp and vivid experience," and the evidence from this person's experience with ketamine is a distinct, "yes, it can." So despite all your emojis and all your bullshit about the pineal gland, you are still wrong.
(April 22, 2017 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote: Karl Jansen published papers on his discovery of the similarities between ketamine's
The guy say........SIMILARITY yog.
Do you know what this word means Yog?
You don't Yog and you don't because you are a nutcase that try to give your own interpretation in order to make a point.
So no Yog, you fail once again.
Trying to distract from the point that you were wrong with more irrelevant bullshit. Yet another fail. The NDE experiencer said that the experience of an NDE was "exactly like" the experience on ketamine. That's not my interpretation, those are his words. What Dr. Jansen is doing is irrelevant to what this NDEer and ketamine user experienced.