What is logic?

[Little Rik]

There is nothing more vague than saying "within". What is "within"? Is it memory? Is it the capability to extrapolate possibile answers from past experiences of similar circumstances? Or is it something else entirely?

Something else Luc.
Didn't I already explained that the consciousness is one but as the iceberg one part is above and the other is below the water so the consciousness is also one but only the part above your awareness is available to you.
The rest is not available until you make the effort of raising it up to your awareness.

That particular knowledge that you own but you can not use yet.

If so, then how and why do you own this knowledge?

Somebody gave it to you Luc that is why you got it but there is a catch.
The catch is that it come hidden and it is up to you to unhide or uncover and bring it to the surface.
This game is called God'lila.

Who is this "father"?

The one who create everything.
Many people call Him God.
Ever heard that name?  

What proof is there for his existence?

Science tell us that everything that exist has got a cause.
Actions must have a reaction so the creation is a reaction to an action and behind and action there got to be a mind that is why I believe in a creator.

Why is he a masculine figure?

It is like saying..........men.....in order to say both men and women.
God doesn't have sex nor a physical body yet we have to call this entity in some way so by saying Him
we mean God.
I understand that this way may not make any sense to you but if you got a better way to name this entity please tell us.

How do you reach him through yoga?

Yoga is a complete system that unable you to reduce the distance that separate you from Him.
All other system have some good part but they lack in something.

What is the other system to reach him?

The other system require that you get rid of your karma life after life by being a good person that in the meantime does not build any more karma along the way.
That is possible but next to impossible because if you take it easy and do not have a system that help you to get rid of your karma in a short time you will fail easy although some people may make it.

And why does this sound a lot like a Christian's "You could believe if you really wanted to" argument?

I don't like that approach.
It doesn't apply to me.

And yet people are living quite well without it, and are able to function normally if they compensate the (very much physical) lack of melatonin secretion.

Is not an ideal situation.
I wouldn't even want to think about living without it.

The article you quoted is first of all irrelevant to this argument, as it does not explain what should happen if the pineal gland were removed, except when it says that children show an earlier onset of maturity - but it doesn't have to do with people being zombies!

Other than that, the article doesn't clearly cite any sources, opens up the with very big, unsupported statements (which are completely mystical/religious in nature) and is full to the brim with some of the least sound logic I have ever heard, like this statement here:

Even physical science is not clear about how the consciousness works or exist.
In fact this science know next to nothing.
Evidence can only come from intuitional science.

Cleaning up the pineal gland is useful for those wishing to develop their multidimensional perception. The Pineal gland will naturally make its own DMT when fully operational and we will be able to remain in a visionary state most of the time. An awakened pineal gland brings the ability to consciously astral travel, explore other dimensions, foresee the future...

Like seriously who writes this stuff? If you get high on endogenous DMT, you are not having a spiritual experience. You're simply high on DMT and hallucinating. Jeez.

The article is talking about cleaning the gland which can only happen by working on the gland in a natural way such as yoga while you talk about the masturbation way in form of DMT.
You just don't get it Luc, do you?  

Slow down. You still have to demonstrate that consciousness is separate from the brain and can exist independently from it for your famous car analogy to be indeed valid. So let's put this point on hold until you have done so.

The consciousness can not separate from the brain as far as you are alive.
It only separate when the body die.
As you leave you car when it rot away also the consciousness do the same when you body goes to the dogs.  
NDEs show that this is a reality.

Awareness in these people who had an NDE is there all the time from the time that they leave their bodies to the time that they re enter their bodies.
There is no such a thing as recover.
There is instead a resuscitation.
Recover means that these people never really died which is not the case as doctors said that these people really died.

It might be so, but it also might not. There is no proof for any of your statements, and the materialistic alternatives (which I stated in the previous posts) are perfectly valid, as demonstrated by the fact that you're avoiding the question with more assertions, without any proof to be seen.

Proofs are there Luc.
As far as doctors declare a person dead and after sometime that person come back it clearly means that is all about resuscitation.

Personal experiences are not objective evidence. They, more often than not, are biased, inaccurate and unhelpful. This is also the case with NDEs, seeing as they seem to be strongly influenced by the subject's culture and beliefs.

How about you read what the objective conditions of these patients actually are? I cited the articles in one of my previous posts. Are you so closed-minded and dogmatic that you can't even think that this kind of approach might be correct?

Wrong again Luc.
Read my previous post in which I answer to Yog.

And yet there's this guy who's had Ketamin and then (for separate reasons) had an NDE and says that he experienced the exactly same things!

Do you trust his personal experience? If not why do you not try Ketamin? Remember that the statements you're making have to be tested!

I do trust personal experiences when these are corroborated by many other people.
In that case that doesn't apply.