RE: Islam; my faith; and other faiths
April 23, 2017 at 3:21 pm
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2017 at 4:20 pm by WinterHold.)
(April 23, 2017 at 1:38 pm)Crunchy Wrote: Ok great, can you answer my question above in post #36?
yes.
Quote:The Hadith paint the picture of how a murderer, rapist and pedophile came to conquer Arabia so it's no wonder you chose to ignore them, but the Quran is no better. It's just written in a more flowery and confusing way.
I've read the Quran and was not impressed. It's an awful lot of plagiarism from the bible and by far the main focus is pure hatred of the unbeliever.
You can pretend all you want that there are some "nice" passages and some "bad" passages, therefore this somehow cancels out. But the truth is quite different.
A simple counting shows that "the unbeliever" is the most common feature of the Quran. Muhammad, like all cult leaders, was obsessed with being followed and obeyed. Counting up the nice things that Muhammad says about unbelievers vs the absolutely horrid and vile things he says and counsels to do to them will easily put to rest the lie of "some good and some bad" and it is ridiculously easy to see the huge overburden of vile xenophobia found throughout the Quran.
So, I'd like to here from a moderate Muslim like yourself. How can you give your approval and support to so may evil ideas? Do you think that just redacting them from your mind somehow makes the problems disappear from the world outside your mind?
Many choose not to ignore it; though.
In fact, it's even used in the constitution of many countries across the Middle East as a source of law creation.
"plagiarism" is a big accusation. But if you see it like that; it's up to you.
Sharing the same concepts is not plagiarism; it might be an indication that the Quran and the Bible do share the same God.
I don't claim anything, but I quote the Quran itself:
Sura 5, Page 123, The Quran:
( 87 ) O you who have believed, do not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors.
Open up page 123, on verse 87, to see that being a transgressor is prohibited by Islam.. It's not rocket science.
I do find a nation, that believed in this verse, 1400 years ago, quite impressive, don't you think?
You also said that Mohammed was obsessed with others following him.
Which I find a quite ignorant statement; looking at this verse:
Sura 109, Page 603, The Quran:
( 1 ) Say, "O disbelievers,
( 2 ) I do not worship what you worship.
( 3 ) Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
( 4 ) Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
( 5 ) Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
( 6 ) For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
So I can say straightforwardly that your post is not based on research, real study of the Quran, real supporting with evidence against Mohammed's case from the Quran, which makes your post quite a propaganda of an anti theistic mind.
Ask yourself what makes you lie about the whole thing, instead of bringing evidence upforth like a decent unbiased detective of ancient texts?
Or is it a set of Blah blah blah that Antitheists believe in?
Not evil. This book is the mercy of God for us humans. A mercy we hid by nuclear bombs and WMDs.
(April 23, 2017 at 2:17 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(April 23, 2017 at 2:17 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Dream on!Living the dream.
Is this the new Coca Cola commercial?