(April 20, 2017 at 4:17 pm)SteveII Wrote:-the articles of your faith.(April 20, 2017 at 3:57 pm)Khemikal Wrote: How is that the only blood sacrifice that atones us, if it's even a blood sacrifice that -can- atone us..if that's even possible?
UIf it wre possible, and was a blood sacrifice that could atone us, why would we accept the offer? Can we accept the offer and remain consistently moral agents?
No amount of repeating the articles of your faith can or will answer these questions.
A blood sacrifice cannot atone for us (see Hebrews 10:4). Justice and holiness are essential qualities of God. If God's holiness and justice required that sin results in total separation from God for eternity for each person, everyone was doomed (we have all sinned and are not holy). As the penalty of sin was death for us, God's substitution required death. However, because he was eternal and perfect, his death was sufficient for all of mankind--thus satisfying the requirements of his essential nature.
(April 20, 2017 at 4:54 pm)Lek Wrote:You have a master and he wants you to do something, but this slavish remark answers none of the quoted questions. "I was just following orders" has a shitty track record. You want something, excellent, I understand that completely. Is the torture and death of another an ok way to get the things we want?(April 20, 2017 at 3:57 pm)Khemikal Wrote: UIf it wre possible, and was a blood sacrifice that could atone us, why would we accept the offer? Can we accept the offer and remain consistently moral agents?
The reason I accept the offer is because that's what he wants me to do and I serve him. Living with him for eternity also is something I want to experience.
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