What is logic?

[Little Rik]

Easy Yog.
Those who are not dead yet can not experience an NDE because their consciousness is still stuck in the body-brain.
Only when the consciousness has separate and is free from the bondage of the body-brain then she is able to see the real thing.  

Yes there are Luc.

1) Doctor-s declare the chap dead inside the emergency room.
2) The chap consciousness leave his dead body-brain and from above can see doctors and nurses that try to bring him-her back to life.
Sometime with a CPR or through other ways.
After sometime when the doctors are successful in resuscitate the chap he-she tell what the doctors-nurses were doing during his time out the body.
3) Doctors and nurses confirm that what the chap saw was spot on.

You can't go wrong with this Luc.  

I should have known that you couldn't answer a simple question, "Mr. Detective".   I asked you how you know that there is a difference, not what you infer or believe happens, but how it is that you, yourself, know that there is a difference.  For what it's worth, Pam Reynolds' brain was still fully functional when she had her OBE and described what she saw from above the operating table.   So even your evidence for your assertion is flawed, because Reynolds was not clinically dead when she had her OBE and NDE.

If somebody asks me how I know something, my answer tells how I acquired the information.  Not some cockamamy assertion about the information.  If somebody asks me how I know what a beep code in computers means, then I can tell them that I learned it by reading a manual on computer repair.  What I don't do is  tell some factual assertions about beep codes.

So I'll ask you again, "How do you know that there is a difference (between NDEs of the clinically dead and those not so)?"  What experience of yours led you to the knowledge* that the NDE of a clinically dead person is different from that of someone not clinically dead?

Do you think you can handle that, "Mr. Detective"?

Wrong, wrong and more wrong.  
Fail, fail and more failing.

But first let us see what this Pan Reynolds said........... The brain is like a computer that runs our body but the soul directs energy when we have a body. .......and then............. I wish everyone could experience this. So that no more questions would arise, everyone would know. I think this is beyond science..........and then..............I know I was dead because someone (doctor) told me that I was dead......

http://neardth.com/pam-reynolds-interview.php

and then let us see about her operation.

Dr. Robert F. Spetzler, of the Barrow Neurological Institute in Phoenix, Arizona, who had pioneered a daring surgical procedure known as deep hypothermic cardiac arrest carry out the operation which required that Pam's body temperature be lowered to 60 degrees, her heartbeat and breathing stopped, her brain waves flattened, and the blood drained from her head. In everyday terms, she was put to death.

http://www.near-death.com/science/eviden...-dead.html

So let us put all this in the correct perspective.
First you say that Pam was not dead during her operation because her brain was still active.

This is crap Yog because she was declared dead.
A brain can still be active for a short while even when the consciousness has left the brain and in this regard I already show how a grasshopper can jump around for a while with her head chopped off.

Secondly you assume that a person that is not clinically dead can have and NDE.
This again is crap.  
You as usually make statements that are lacking any evidence that is why your questions don't make any sense.

When you will have any intelligent questions that make sense come back to me and I will be obliged to answer you.