What is logic?

[Little Rik]

I got good news for you Yog.  

I decided to nominated you for the Nobel price for imbecility for asking a question like this.  

Are you excited about that?  

When I have ever said that those who are NOT dead can have an NDE?
I rather said that only those who are dead can have an NDE but you as usual mix everything up and you came up with the story that I said this and that so now you expect me that I tell you this and that.

Seek medical help Yog because you are getting worse by the day.  

But let me made it clear once again.
For death I mean when the consciousness leave the body-brain.
There may well be still activity in the brain.
That however doesn't mean that the brain is alive.
Once the consciousness is gone the brain is like a vehicle without the driver.
It may be still warm and for few more minutes there may be activity but at that stage is dead.
Without the consciousness is dead.
Now your stupid question ask me what is the difference ........... between NDEs of the clinically dead and those not so..........
Once again I said dead not clinically or biologic or any other form of death and I also said that only when you are dead you can have an NDE.
Who suppose to be your ....those not so?
Are they alive are they dead are they clinically dead are they biologic dead?
You don't say who they are those not so.
If you are not clear is like asking me why the birds don't live inside the water or why the fishes don't live on land or on air.
Stupid questions from stupid fool.  

Wow.  Look at all that sauce.  And still not an answer to the question.

There are people who have had experiences they identify as an NDE, despite the fact that they never were "dead" in whatever terms you consider dead.  You have implied that there is a difference between what those people experience and a "real NDE" experience.  How do you know there is a difference in the clarity, vividness or sharpness of their experiences, between their NDE-like experiences and the "real NDE" of someone who died?

Is that clear enough for you, asshole?

Imbecile.  

There are millions or billion of people who dream or have hallucinations.
Some of these people even think that they had an NDE.
I also can say that I went on the moon so what?
Other people make up a story by inventing the whole experience so how do we know who really had
a genuine and real NDE and those who didn't?
First of all the consciousness must have left the brain in which case we can say that the bloke is dead.
With the consciousness still there in the body-brain you can not have an NDE.
Then by reading hundreds and hundreds of NDEs experience you can see that most of them lead in the same place which is a learning experience that make you dump dogmas in favor of pure spirituality.

Of course there may be people who invent the whole story or that they confuse an hallucination with
a real NDE.
As far as I am concern if someone that is not dead say that they had a clear, sharp and vivid experience
I don't buy it because if the consciousness is still in the brain you can not have anything like that.
The consciousness must be free from the bondage of the brain in order to have a clear, sharp and vivid experience.