(May 5, 2017 at 1:08 pm)Aroura Wrote: If a person repents, honestly, then they should be forgiven (particularly by family).
This has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with secular morality, as well.
If I had a relative who had murdered, then truly felt terrible about it and took actual steps to prevent further harm (aka, Vader killing Palpatine), that shows real remorse and repentance, not just mouthing it, then they deserve to be forgiven. That does not mean let them lose on society. Fortunately in Star Wars Vader dies right after, so they don't have to deal with that sticky conundrum. But there is nothing inherently wrong with the message, as far as I can see. As a matter of fact, society would be better if more people could actually embrace this sort of message, instead of constantly seeking "justice" and revenge.
I honestly thought this topic was going to be about the Force and how you have to believe...blah blah. But even there, it is just believing in yourself, so I don't personally get all bent about it either.
You are still missing my point.
I am all for second chances and even for forgiveness. It is only a movie but it depicts GENOCIDE and the top henchman of the boss is in on it. It creates a very immoral plot line in my view. No, we are not talking about a robbery here, or a murder in the heat of passion, Darth took part in genocide as the plot goes. If he were my dad, no, I would want no part of him ever. Now that is not to say revenge no, but there is no way I would ever want to say one word to that person ever again. If contained outside of battle no, I don't want revenge, just containment. But that does not mean I would want to talk to them again.
Nobody is talking about revenge. Ironically though the original name of "Return of the Jedi" was "Revenge of the Jedi".