Can prayer change God's perfect plan?

[Catholic_Lady]

I think some people are just having a hard time grasping the concept of being outside the dimension of time and therefore being able to see it all at once. Which is understandable, since we live within time and don't have the ability to comprehend a dimension that is outside of it.

To us, it's past, present, and future, one moment happening at a time... and if we imagine someone "knowing the future" we imagine it means they know because they will control it. So, since they know what we will choose to do in the future, that must mean they will control what we choose, right? I get that.

But there is a difference between that^ and someone being outside of time entirely, and them "knowing the future" because to them there is no "future" to begin with - they are outside of that. They can see everything happening all at once, hence they can see us making our choices.

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I agree with this. And for the record, I don't see it in the way that other poster does.

As I explained, God knows what we will choose in the future specifically because He is not bound by past, present, and future. He can see everything happening all at once, like looking at a timeline of the beginning of time all the way until the end of it. This does not mean He controls what we choose, it just means He is already seeing what we will choose because He is looking at all of time from the outside of it.

But of course this gets to the point where that's what you're asserting what God's nature is, and actually demonstrating this assertion is another ball of wax entirely.

That is true. I know I can't prove anything. I'm just giving my opinion. I'm glad you can understand what I'm saying though.