RE: Can prayer change God's perfect plan?
May 11, 2017 at 5:41 pm
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2017 at 5:43 pm by Aroura.)
(May 11, 2017 at 3:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(May 11, 2017 at 2:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Me too, but I am also willing to accept it if she figures out we were right. Someone planted doubt in my head long ago and I wish I could go back and thank them. But if she never sees what we see, the only request I would have is the same of anyone of any religion, don't demand religious based laws, don't get violent with those who blaspheme you, but I think she already thinks that way.
I thought the atheist position was that you didn't know if a god exists because there has not been enough proof to convince you of one. Not that you've already concluded that one for sure does not exist. Am I wrong?
It varies.
Most would call themselves Agnostic Atheists (Don't know for sure, but no evidence of one)
Some are Gnostic Atheists (Know for sure there isn't one).
Most people also vary depending on the god mentioned. For instance many people on this forums have even stated they outright feel certain saying the God of the Bible does not exist, however that does not mean that no gods exists anywhere. A lot of the problem comes from the broad and varying definitions of the word God.
I bet you are a Gnostic Atheist about the existence of Zeus, for instance. But no one actively believes in Zeus anymore, so it isn't a position you need to defend.
Could your personal Abrahamic god exist? No. Could a god exist? Possibly. <---------------I think this is a common, though not universal, atheist position.
So when you talk about God, it depends on if the atheist is taking it by the broadest definition (any possible god), or the narrower one (the biblical one with all the extra attributes given it by someone personally).
Hope that made some sense.
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