(May 12, 2017 at 1:03 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:(May 12, 2017 at 12:47 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: An analogy might help. You choose to enter a movie theater; seeing the movie is the consequence of that choice. Similarly, contrition and repentance open you up to receive the Holy Spirit by means of the gospel.
Riiight. So all these stories of people being atheists of non-believers, and, while doing everyday things, are "struck by the holy spirit" are just lies? And all those people who prayed and prayed and wanted to be "filled with the spirit" and got nothing? They were doing it wrong? Such ridiculous crap.
(May 12, 2017 at 12:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The bible doesn't go into detail about what the afterlife will be like and how people will be judged in all the different scenarios possible. On those things, we may speculate, disagree, and have our personal opinions. I don't see why that's such a big deal. The important thing, and what actually matters, is that we all agree we can only be 100% responsible for our own souls, and we trust in God's judgement for the rest.
Yeah, the important thing is to agree to at least PART of the story, so it doesn't look like everyone has their own version of god and his plan and most are contradictory.
It's always amazing how much religion sounds like getting someone into drugs you have to be "open" to the magic drugs and if you not then boo on you. Glad physics does not work that way . "Sorry tammy you were not open to be filled by the holy gravity wave that's why your floating off to the icy void of space.
Religion if you accept it they win . If you reject it it's your fault and they still win.
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