RE: Theistic Inclinations
May 12, 2017 at 4:45 pm
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2017 at 4:54 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 12, 2017 at 3:46 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: One possible way of looking at it is this. If all of time is fully present to God then God doesn't know now what you will do in the future because he already knows it then. That means he is only aware of the choice you make exactly at the time you make it. It's kind of a mind bender, I know but it has a certain sense about it.
That's called knowledge of the present.
It also means God doesn't know everything.
P.S. It's not relevant anyway because even if he's not aware of what you WILL do yet... the fact you WILL do it means you can't do otherwise.
(May 12, 2017 at 4:44 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think the point is that He's not limited by time, so unlike us He doesn't have to "wait" to see it happen.
That's how I understood it anyway. Though I guess we'll have to wait for Chad to explain.
Sounds to me like he's completely limited by time if he doesn't know the future now but he only knows it THEN in the future... i.e. when it's no longer the future anymore and when it's the present! Lol!
"because outside of space and time" is akin to saying "because magic"... which doesn't work. You may as well say God can make square circles.
If God knows what you are going to do in a precise moment then you can't do otherwise in that precise moment. In fact, if you are definitely going to do something then you can't not do it regardless of if he knows. The point is your action is already predetermined. Being outside of space and time (which is a logically incoherent concept anyways... you may as well say God can make square circles) has nothing to do with it.
The logical errors made here by both yourself and Neo only further demonstrate why you're not atheists.
