RE: Without the Shedding of Blood There is No Remission of Sin
May 15, 2017 at 8:36 am
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2017 at 9:28 am by Drich.)
(May 13, 2017 at 11:00 pm)Grandizer Wrote:Because 'good works' are done for the praise (even if the praise is just between the doer and the needy) The fruit of salvation is seen as almost a debt or obligation one is happily tasked to do.(May 13, 2017 at 10:54 pm)Lek Wrote: They're all good works. If you have faith in Christ you will do good works. Works can happen apart from faith, but faith cannot exist apart from works.
How then does one identify the fruits of salvation as opposed to just good works? I sort of remember Jesus saying in the Gospels that you shall know them by their fruits.
(May 14, 2017 at 11:51 am)Cyberman Wrote: Accurate, but Drich is maintaining either that ISIS is producing evil fruit, or is itself evil fruit (his language is characteristically ambiguous). I want to know what about it makes it intrinsically evil.
Evil is a word that describes an extreme desire or act that puts one directly outside the expressed will of God.
In society evil is an extreme 'moral transgression.'
For the sake of this argument, I over lapped the two definitions where God's righteousness and man's morality both say what ISIS is doing is wrong.
Beheading of westerners, wholesale slaughter of Christians, the destruction of non Muslim city's and artifacts. The tyranny they rain down in whatever region they hold.
These are all examples of evil fruit.