(May 17, 2017 at 8:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(May 16, 2017 at 11:47 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Come on Atlas, read a science book. If you want to know anwser to that question take Stephen Hawking "Brief History of Time" (you know one of the most famous books of our times). In it Hawking writes "There was in fact no singularity at the beginning of the universe." This conclusion follows from quantum mechanics, the theory of atomic processes that was developed in the years following the introduction of Einstein's theories of relativity. Quantum mechanics, which also is now confirmed to great precision, tells us that general relativity, at least as currently formulated, must break down at times less than the Planck time and at distances smaller than the Planck length. It follows that general relativity cannot be used to imply that a singularity occurred prior to the Planck time and that Craig's use of the singularity theorem for a beginning of time is invalid.
Universe probably never had a beginning. We can always have one event follow another, and we can always have one event precede another.
And also I made a topic about this in science section. It should still be on the 1st page.
But here it seems that he acknowledges the fact:
Quote:At this time, the Big Bang, all the matter in the universe, would have been on top of itself. The density would have been infinite. It would have been what is called, a singularity. At a singularity, all the laws of physics would have broken down. This means that the state of the universe, after the Big Bang, will not depend on anything that may have happened before, because the deterministic laws that govern the universe will break down in the Big Bang. The universe will evolve from the Big Bang, completely independently of what it was like before. Even the amount of matter in the universe, can be different to what it was before the Big Bang, as the Law of Conservation of Matter, will break down at the Big Bang.Since the universe it expanding, and it was proven that everything reaches the point of zero acceleration outwards as we advance in the past, a singularity would be a must have scenario. What Hawkings is saying pours directly into that.
http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html
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Atlas, attacking science or trying to co opt science does not work. It does not work when Muslims do it, it does not work when Christians do it, it does not work when Jews or Buddhists or Hindus do it. BUT YOU ALL DO IT.
You are trying the same fallacious tactic as NEO and Steve11 have as Christians. When you cant quote the Koran/ or bible directly, you attack science in an attempt to debunk it, when you cant do that, then you try to co opt science to try to get it to point to your holy writing. It does not work when any religion tries to pull it.