RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 21, 2017 at 8:15 pm
(This post was last modified: May 21, 2017 at 8:28 pm by MellisaClarke.)
(May 21, 2017 at 9:05 am)chimp3 Wrote: As far as I know AI has reached the level of intelligence obtained by insects. Not as smart as a mole rat yet.
They are about to replace 75 - 80% of IT jobs:
https://futurism.com/80-of-it-jobs-can-b...-exciting/
It looks like you're correct though, in terms of mapping brains, we haven't gotten to chimp level yet. (Gotten as far as rats)
But other methods like "Deep Learning" don't focus on mapping brains exactly, and that is where the job threat comes from. We have to start preparing for this jobless market.
(May 21, 2017 at 2:20 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: And AI equaling human brain complexity may be 25 or more years further off than Kurtzweil's estimates if Moore's Law holds...because we keep finding out our brains operation is more complex than we previously thought. Maybe a hundred-fold more complex, with a lot more happening at the dendrite level than was believed when Kurtzweill estimated a few years ago that it would be happening around 2029. So now I'm thinking around 2050-2060 if everything holds steady (which it probably won't, one way or the other).
Kurzweil seems to be good at predicting the future.
My bet is on Kurzweil for human level brain machines for 2029!
(May 21, 2017 at 4:36 pm)Succubus Wrote: Artificial intelligence was amply demonstrated in 1977 when Deep Blue beat chess grandmaster Gary Kasparov. As impressive as IBM's achievement was, Deep Blue was just a computer doing computer shit, lots of switches in an on/off state. Was the machine actually playing chess or was it selecting from an enormous pool of options? I don't know. If that's what artificial intelligence is, then fine, ok.
Now artificial consciousness or self awareness is something very different, and we are nowhere near creating such a machine. Praise be.
I don't personally know if we are no where near, but based on expert predictions, (kurzweil) we will at least have relatively cheap human level brain power devices by 2029.
(May 21, 2017 at 4:43 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote:(May 21, 2017 at 4:36 pm)Succubus Wrote: Artificial intelligence was amply demonstrated in 1977 when Deep Blue beat chess grandmaster Gary Kasparov. As impressive as IBM's achievement was, Deep Blue was just a computer doing computer shit, lots of switches in an on/off state. Was the machine actually playing chess or was it selecting from an enormous pool of options? I don't know. If that's what artificial intelligence is, then fine, ok.
Now artificial consciousness or self awareness is something very different, and we are nowhere near creating such a machine. Praise be.
For an AI apocalypse, we don't need self-aware AI, we just need a random dumb AI we are all relying on, and then somehow screwup. As we are increasingly relying on AI, that scenario is quite likely.
Also, our neurons are "lots of switches in an on/off state" in a sense, so an artificial computer brain isn'e too different.
Nice summary, not because it agrees with my mindset, but because it seems to agree with facts
