(May 20, 2017 at 12:24 pm)bennyboy Wrote:Exactly. Wherever we point our vision, God exists.(May 20, 2017 at 8:55 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: .God is obvious; we see his work every moment we look around. But our minds are limited. We can conclude a creator, some of us did at least, but to demand seeing God is Ithe ultimate insult to the reality of our own mind. Our eyes alone cannot handle looking at the sun; so no shame at all in admitting that our eyes cannot see the creator.So. . . you think we cannot notice God, because there's so much of God all around us that we are overwhelmed?
Nah. I'm overwhelmed by the existence of disease and death in infants. I'm overwhelmed by the number of religious killings, institutional rapes and other horrors that followers of "God" perpetrate.
As a creator of everything, he must.
Ancient Egyptians even worshiped the Dung Beetle.
His creation can also be seen in disease and death. It reminds humanity with its weakness, and reminds us that we're not in control.
Infants born with chronic illnesses are a grim reminder that we are nothing but what our genes say, by the order of a higher deity.
Rape and murder by humans on the other hand, is an utter crime. Because it has no true meaning; no guarantees of an afterlife, and no guarantees of a judgment hour.
Quote:Cool story, bro. Where's the evidence?
We live atop of the ball filled with water.
The burning star can be seen in the morning. It's beautiful at sunrise and sunset.
Quote:So what? We are part of a system greater than ourselves, and nobody denies it. We just deny that Sky Daddy made it that way.
The system itself is too organised. The variables are so so many.
In the early universe, things weren't like this. It could've stayed like a mess.
The existence of a creator is quite insisting, because a design cannot appear without an intelligent force behind it.