RE: 19 dead, 50 injured, after terror attack
May 26, 2017 at 10:16 am
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2017 at 10:27 am by Brian37.)
(May 26, 2017 at 9:56 am)alpha male Wrote:(May 26, 2017 at 9:40 am)Brian37 Wrote: You, "Get rid of them all"
That you need to set up a straw man of my position should tell you something.
Should be:
Me: "Don't let people in from certain countries known to produce more terrorists than other countries."
That's common sense. You guys employ the same principal at the personal level. You don't just leave your doors open and indiscriminately let people in. The odds of a bad outcome would be too high. But, at the national level, you're willing to play the odds, so you can feel good about yourself and virtue signal.
(May 26, 2017 at 9:50 am)pocaracas Wrote: How many children die in cars every year?
I don't see the parents of those children calling for a ban on cars! I don't hear high government officials proposing such a ban!
As I said earlier, the fact that there are necessary risks in life doesn't mean that one must indiscriminately accept unnecessary risks. That's ridiculous.
No straw man. If you are for Trump's all out Muslim ban then you ARE supporting fear and xenophobia. If you are not advocating "get rid of them all" your posts here don't seem to reflect that.
Stop trying to mask your bullshit paranoia with watered down language, "unnecessary risks".
If you are for all out bans on an entire religion, regardless if even if that individual hasn't been violent, you are arguing against a label, not advocating reducing "unnecessary risks".
When you add up all the violent crimes, such as domestic murder, robbery, rape, assault and murder in general, the vast majority of violent criminals ARE BORN HERE.
Now again, no, Muslims or Mexicans for that matter. I am not going to loose my empathy for my fellow humans who are non violent. I would deport your childish fearful ass before I would deport anyone who has not been violent. I would also rather have that Pakistani Muslim who Taxed all those non Muslim girls home for FREE as my neighbor and NOT YOU.
But if you want to keep talking like FRANK BURNS from MASH keep it up, we will keep treating you like the childish brat you are acting like.
You really piss me off.
I have been on line for 16 years. I have conversed with Arabs who fled the east online, and even many who still live in fear of their own governments even today.
Those are HUMAN BEINGS to me, not my enemies. Your bullshit is to assume guilt before someone does something.
It is one thing to attack a claim or a book. It is also one thing to go after violent people. I am fine with those things.
But it is NOT ok to be a fucking dick to someone before they've given you a reason to fear that individual.
If you fail to see that you will become the very thing you say you don't want to become.
