(May 17, 2017 at 8:41 pm)ignoramus Wrote: You're a good Christian or Muslim, you come to the realisation at some point that you are gay, your lifestyle conflicts with the good book so you abandon the good book because it isn't for you.
So this good book which grants you everlasting life by the almighty has been discarded because of your hormones!
What's wrong with you? Don't you want to live forever? Sacrificing your immortality for a good time in this life only.
Guys, isn't it blatantly obvious that people are who nature made them to be. No silly books can change that.
People subscribe to these books because they happen to coincide with what they are comfortable with. This of course includes all the bigoted attitudes which people have. It is so convenient to hide your prejudices behind the veils of religion.
If people truly believed that there is a creator who knows all and will judge us one day, their natural survival instincts should at least kick in to protect them from themselves. This does not happen because nature does not recognise or acknowledge any silly made made books... Simples!
I don't get that either. But I'd still value more a liberal LGBT than a gay republican.
Same can be said for the history of African Americans. While today's liberal African Americans are mostly Christians and while they certainly have far more empathy for others than the Tea Party white right Christians, the still ignore that today does not change the biblical based justified slave trade that forced many slaves and their children to convert.
Caitlynn Jenner for example makes no sense to me. She votes republican despite the long history of their anti LGBT positions.
As far as social issues, and concepts of equality, even as an atheist where even many liberal theists can fear that word, I still will take a liberal theist over a right wing theist of any label.
Right wing is right wing and conservatives exist in all religions. I've run into even far right Jews who have hate groups too. There are Jews in Israel depending on individual family or sect that are sexist to the point of holding up airlines because they refuse to sit next to women.
To me the core of our species has individuals who are more empathetic and those who are more selfish and buy into fear. I see that in all camps.
But your posts brings up a really good point.
When a conservative or even a liberal argues, "I wouldn't do that"
The problem becomes that the further back in time you go, the more literally and word for word more people took the bible. So I'd say conservatives are actually more loyal to the book than liberals.
Yea I agree, I see no sense in buying into a book that promotes tribalism especially when it produces individuals who pick out verses in it to justify being a dick to you.
