Consciousness Trilemma

[The Grand Nudger]

This would be to equate memory with experience, and, in this case, consciousness.....which I'm fine with (dennet would be fine with that too)...though you might want to rethink it.......

Of course all memory is experiential and conscious. No I do not wish to rethink that. It doesn't make it an illusion.

Oh, well then........all false memory must be false experiential and false consciousness?  No sweat off an eliminativists back.  They do, though, think that more of what you call consciousness is of the false memory/experience/consciousness variety than you might imagine.  Like, how it feels to feel, for example.  

The whole disagreement you and Jor have with me is just the two of you's repeated failure to grasp the fact that when the mechanics behind how consciousness works is commonly misunderstood by most people that doesn't fucking mean that conscious itself is an illusion. For starters you're both confusing delusion with illusion. People are deluded about the way consciousness works and they don't realize that what they are experiencing now is in fact something that went on in their brain a moment ago. But the whole point is that what they seem to be experiencing now they seem to be experiencing now and there's no distinction between what they seem to be experiencing now and what they are experiencing now because seeming to experience is experimentally identical to experiencing. Q. E. D.

Seeming to experience is the same as experiencing to an eliminative materialist, as well.  They just don't think that this consciousness is what it seems to be.  A point that's been made to you so many times it's almost painful to reiterate.

What's the problem?