RE: Consciousness Trilemma
May 31, 2017 at 6:16 pm
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2017 at 6:19 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 31, 2017 at 6:08 pm)pocaracas Wrote: ah, so... it's only about it taking time, in spite the instantaneous appearance of the thought process... is that it?No, that's just one example of the discrepancy between how it seems to be and what nuerons are..or can be, doing.
Quote:Again, that instantaneous appearance is just what should be called "Real-Time"... it's fast enough for that thought process itself to not be aware of the passage of that time.Again, no one doubts that the span of time is miniscule, or easily missed or not noticed or that it doesn't work. Only that it appears to be a way that it is not, and cannot be. Anyone who insists that consciousness is that, is insisting that consciousness is something that is not, or cannot be. If that's what consciousness is, it doesn't exist.
I can give an even harder interpretation. Since we know that consciousness -can be- in error with regards to itself, when it seems to be..could that seeming, itself, be an artifact? Did we actually feel some way, x, in an actual past-but-then present moment, or is that another fanciful story that the brain is telling? The self not being a discrete mental state, that was there experiencing stuff then, but simply the narrative center of gravity?
Quote:I think I once read about the fastest a person could react to some stimuli and the delay between stimulus and reaction was of the order of 100ms (IIRC)... that's 0.1 seconds. Look around for slow motion cameras and see how much of the world occurs in under 0.1s... 0.1s is an eternity. Heck, your computer is probably calculating stuff at about 2GHz... one clock cycle every 1/(2x10^9) = 0.5x10^-9 = 5x10^-10s = 0.0000000005 seconds. It does 200 million calculations in the time a human takes to react to something. And, if the computer has a multi-core CPU, that can be multiplied by the number of cores.I can, lol..and I'm glad we can't do that....and yet, it sure -feels- like we can, eh? I'm "here" for every millisecond, in the present. I don't blip in and out of existence, skipping through time.
My point is, we're slow, but we're fast enough for our purposes.
0.1s seems instantaneous.
Can you imagine how excruciating life would be if we could feel the milliseconds tick by?
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