Quote:Chad32 Wrote:
If christianity can be dragged out of that kind of thing, so can islam. I don't see why not.
Because religions are not all the same. They are not equals.
There are many differences between islam and christianity but a very large one is the difference between the founders. Jesus did not become a military conqueror and political leader. His life is a very different example than that of Muhammad's.
Jesus said to render unto caesar what is caesar's. Jesus had no intention of becoming a political or military leader even if many of his later followers did. Insurgency is simply not hardwired into the Bible the way it is hardwired into Islamic holy texts as reflected by both Muhammad's words and deeds.
Would you expect capitalists to accept govt takeover of industry while remaining capitalists? No, they would have to abandon their beliefs for this to happen. Same thing with Islam. Islamic texts teach outright and in no uncertain terms that the only ruling ideology is to be islam itself and that applies to military and political leadership as well as spiritual leadership. Even if many Muslims are able to redact large parts of the Quran and Hadith from their minds, this does not in any way alter the teachings that remain in the holy books. They remain in place ready to be used whenever the opportunity arises.
The proof is that christian dominant nations were able to secularize and islamic nations were largely not. Even those that have secularized (like Turkey) are always on the verge of drifting back to islamic states as Turkey is now doing. The reason is because that is a central theme of islam and not a central theme of christianity or Buddhism or Hinduism etc...
If god was real he wouldn't need middle men to explain his wants or do his bidding.