RE: Consciousness Trilemma
June 6, 2017 at 9:26 am
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2017 at 9:48 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 6, 2017 at 9:18 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: The bigger question Khem, I think, is how does the eliminative materialist justify considering some systems discrete. Where does one system begin and the other end? It seems that the eliminative position is the opposite of what you are saying, i.e. that those boundaries are illusory. Nominalism is implicit in eliminativism. Systems and objects aren't really distinct; they are just descriptions to give the semblance of intelligibility to what is actually a seamless swirl of material activity.
The same way that any system is considered discrete by anyone. Why I am considered to be one thing, and my cars engine is another. Two discrete, and disparate systems. Honestly, if we have to go this far down the rabbit hole just to not-even-disagree.....I don't know what the problem is -or- for whom it's supposed to be a problem.
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In any case, if our brain (part of everything.....I think you'd agree) is a seamless swirl of material activity in whatever sense you mean that (I;m not sure that anyone disagrees....?), and no discrete system of "mind" exists within it, then the hardest position of eliminitive materialism is correct by default. There is no discrete mental state of self, qualia does not and cannot map to a discrete mental state, because there is no such thing.
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