What are your thoughts on fat acceptance?

[The Grand Nudger]

I still can't get my mind around that.

Last week I worked 86 hours from Monday to Sunday.  I had to to go to the gym for over 3 hours, I hour per day for 3 days Monday to Wednesday.  If you don't have a gym it's easy enough to lift some weight or do some step ups or sit ups.

When I used to do a manual labor job then my work was my gym but I'd still go to the gym ontop of that.

Admittedly my gym motivation is basically that there's good looking women at my gym and it's nice to see some nice ass after being sat in work for 12 hours.

I still had time ontop of that the other days to go visit my daughter.

You visit your daughter, do you raise her?  How many people are directly under your care (not your dime)..and how much gym time would you have if there were, say...three or four?
 

And as for food, I don't know how it is in America, but you can get instant cous cous, pasta and rice for so on for fairly cheap.  Boil in the bag veg.  
A tin of chick peas is 33p, same with beans too.

It's getting better, but it got pretty bad.  Nevertheless, it;s not getting better uniformly.  A Whole Foods is unlikely to materialize in the ghetto.  We have what are referred to as food deserts.  You probably do too.  

 High earners being above 75000

A family of six qualifies for assistance to 80k, here..because they are below the adjusted poverty line.

and low being below 25000.

that's super high for a low range.......lol.  

The level of obesity according to this chart, in people who earn less than 25000 is 30 percent, going up to people who earn 25000 to 50000 it's only around a 2 or 3 percent difference.

..because there is no middle class in america.  People who feel wealthier because they have moderately increased access to what they believe are healthy foods are very often eating the same shit that the poors eat..just prettied up in a nice package.  Like..instant this that or the other meals.  That's just the way food has gone in the us.  Ignoring the reality of the country and market we live in as though any human being made their decisions regarding what to eat in a vacuum won;t tell us anything at all about those decisions.

Also on this website it talks about the increase in cost of fruit and veg but I'm pretty sure I can find what anyone would consider to be cheap fruit and veg if I try.  Some of it might not be fresh it might be frozen or in tins though.

Cheap to you, where you are.  I work in healthy food, as it were...and you know what..I think there -are- more people who could afford what I sell.  I do sell it less than retail..though.  Trouble is, they don't have access to me, if they know about me, if i have capacity for them.... and our system strongly favors the Kroger.  

@Reg
Everything beyond the quoted response, below the line, was me rambling about the topic in general, not in specific response to you.  I should have made that clear.  

I agree that external factors are constraining a great many people to obesity.  That's -why- I don't think that it makes much sense (laying aside that it's just nasty..lol) to shame those people or force consequences like a tax on them.  They're already being used.....I can't bring myself to pick their pockets.

Lack of cooking skills, lack of a functioning kitchen, lack of access to healthier alternatives..-and fast food is more convenient..even the fast food at the grocery store.

When you are malnourished, you feel constantly hungry - no matter how full you are.  They eat, because they are hungry.  They'd have to be capable of denying the most basic urge of all life.  Not just skipping the cake.  To be honest, the only way for them to get sufficient nourishment is to -be- fat..to overeat.  Consider the lens through which you are viewing this.

They're only the same issues when people describe them as such...using a shared language of buzzwords.  If we want to tax their lifestyle choice, fine.  You know as well as I that there are other "lifestyle choices".  I'll be honest, I haven't seen anything pro fat-tax that hasn't also been levied at them.  The afflicted have many choices, 99% of them bad.