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...Truth?
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RE: ...Truth?
The theist would say that, because their god is the source of all truth and the ultimate end, a search for truth is an endeavor to get closer to god. After the necessary Kierkegaardian leap of faith into whatever worldview, theists do have a reason to find truth.

As for this being fundamentally rational, I'd argue that there are no worldviews that are fundamentally rational. All require the leap into belief. I can argue this if you like. Past that point is what I'm talking about. Once theists establish a reason to be rational and a foundation for it, they then have an impetus to search for truth. I don't see the same in atheism—after establishing rationalism and a foundation for it, I don't detect an immediate reason to find truth.

As for fake news about sabertooth cats, that's a completely different matter. Telling the truth about something, while beneficial in some instances, isn't in many others, and that's beside the point. These are two different issues: "functional" truth such as "there's a sabertooth cat about to attack" and philosophical truth such as "do I even exist." For the atheist, sure, there's a reason to value the former, but I see no reason to value the latter.
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...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 3:20 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 3:37 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by vorlon13 - June 28, 2017 at 3:39 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Mister Agenda - June 30, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by vorlon13 - June 28, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 3:52 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by pocaracas - June 28, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 5:58 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by pocaracas - June 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 5:24 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 5:56 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by pocaracas - June 28, 2017 at 6:02 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 5:36 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 5:47 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by The Industrial Atheist - June 30, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 5:49 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 5:55 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by LadyForCamus - June 28, 2017 at 8:23 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by henryp - June 28, 2017 at 8:33 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 6:01 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:34 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 6:37 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:38 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:27 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 6:31 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 6:37 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 6:54 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 7:01 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:04 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:23 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:19 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:24 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:33 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:59 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 8:58 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 29, 2017 at 12:41 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Ravenshire - June 30, 2017 at 12:41 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 6:51 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Minimalist - June 28, 2017 at 6:40 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 6:41 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:43 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:53 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 7:07 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 7:08 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by pocaracas - June 28, 2017 at 7:14 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by bennyboy - June 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by henryp - June 28, 2017 at 8:07 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by LadyForCamus - June 28, 2017 at 8:47 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by henryp - June 28, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by LadyForCamus - June 28, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Court Jester - June 28, 2017 at 10:36 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ignoramus - June 28, 2017 at 11:47 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by The Valkyrie - June 28, 2017 at 11:54 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ignoramus - June 29, 2017 at 12:08 am
RE: ...Truth? - by The Valkyrie - June 29, 2017 at 12:12 am
RE: ...Truth? - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 29, 2017 at 11:29 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 30, 2017 at 12:39 am
RE: ...Truth? - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 30, 2017 at 1:09 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 1:13 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 30, 2017 at 2:00 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 2:15 am
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 30, 2017 at 5:17 am
RE: ...Truth? - by bennyboy - June 30, 2017 at 9:20 am
RE: ...Truth? - by LadyForCamus - June 30, 2017 at 9:42 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 30, 2017 at 5:07 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by KerimF - June 30, 2017 at 5:21 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 9:21 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 9:46 am
RE: ...Truth? - by ignoramus - June 30, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 9:56 am
RE: ...Truth? - by ignoramus - June 30, 2017 at 10:02 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 10:04 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 3:44 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Mister Agenda - June 30, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Astonished - June 30, 2017 at 2:33 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 3:32 pm

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