Moral Nihilism

[Kyuuketsuki]

Why would atheism, "be true"? It isn't a philosophy, it makes no statement about anyone except that they don't believe in past/current claims to the existence of gods.

Then the statement "they don't believe in past/current claims to the existence of gods" is a false statement?

That's not what I said, I said that atheism says nothing about anyone except that (that person) does not believe in current (or past) claims to the existence of gods ... it's nothing but a label, no philosophy! This isn't rocket science you know and I'm sure even you are capable of understanding the idea.

Atheists make assertions which they hope and pray are true.

No they don't, they tend to take the assumptive position that there is no god unless there is evidence to support the claim and it is YOU and your cronies that are making the claim, the extraordinary claim therefore it is YOU and your cronies that need to provide the evidence.

Atheism implies nothing of the sort because to make that claim you MUST prove first that morality (or some aspects of) is absolute and if so demonstrate the moral arbiter that supplies it. Have fun on that.

I'm not attempting to defend the existence of a transcendant moral law at this point. I'm merely arguing that without one, the atheist has no warrant to condemn the mass murder of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot. Are you willing to affirm that?

I have every right because morality is a system of ethics, ethics are social and it is against a given culture's ethical/moral systems that we evaluate out behaviour and that of others. Obviously that also means I do not believe in evil or in absolute wrong or right but it doesn't stop me finding the behaviour of some individuals either morally uplifting or morally repugnant.

Kyu