(June 28, 2017 at 5:24 pm)Insufferable Caleb Wrote: mh.brewer:
An act of belief in god, once again, is as much a leap of belief as that of naturalism, or any other worldview. The foundation of faith in every worldview has been shown multiple times (Kierkegaard, for instance, on subjective truth and existentialism, or Descartes, if you want to hear a basic setup of denial of any believable thread of thought—pure reason can't take you anywhere). The theist's leap to believe in god is not based on reason or logic or god's say-so, but belief. The theist chooses to believe in a god just as the atheist chooses to believe that they can only trust what they experience; what god says about himself/herself/itself/whatever is beside the point in the initial step of belief. Your dialogue between you and god is a misunderstanding of what philosophical theism actually believes.
No, you're incorrect, it's not the same leap of belief, not at all. If you choose to believe that you're welcome to it. I'll not be dragged there.
Kirkawhat and Dessiewho?
And you're incorrect again, atheist for me means a lack of belief in god(s) and what they represent. That includes the supernatural. It has little to do with experience.
I said I'd need to sniff you. I starting to back away.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
