(June 28, 2017 at 6:01 pm)Insufferable Caleb Wrote: Kirkawhat and Dessiewho: Two famous philosophers who are highly respected in the philosophy realm.
Could you explain what you mean by "it's not the same leap of belief, not at all"? What makes you believe in empiricism? I'm really asking. Do you have a rational explanation? I wish I could communicate my sincerity in this question through text. I'm not trying to be rhetorical, I really want to know. I want to engage intelligently with other people who are willing to defend their beliefs, whether that be theism, atheism, pantheism, postmodernism, or whatever
Also, I don't quite understand "I starting to back away." Are you worried that I'm a theist and that I'll mess up the atheist forums? Because if that's the case, that saddens me. I just want to find the truth. I've left countless Christian circles because everyone thinks I'm atheist. I've offended countless people who think I shouldn't be asking the questions I do because they're too set in their dogma to consider actually finding truth. I think. I think about things people set in their beliefs consider blasphemy. And I try to find truth. There's my worldview. If you have a problem with that, back away. On the other hand, if you want to start arguing against atheism I can pick up that mantle and argue the sh*t out of theism. Would that prove my desire to honestly just find what's real?
I'll give those guys as much respect as I believe they deserve. I don't care much for philosophy.
I do believe in empiricism, but not exclusively. Some beliefs can't be subjected to science. One rational explanation would be reproducibility/testability.
I can discuss my beliefs but I don't necessarily have to defend them.
Backing away, that has nothing to do with beliefs. It has to do with what/how I perceive as your motivations and attitude. Telling me what I believe or should believe ain't sitting to well. I don't care what or where you have or have not been or done.
Sounds like you state that you're trying to find "your truth, as you see it", make a statement then pile rationalizations and justifications in an attempt to get me to accept them. That may and may not work depending on the subject.
IMO, you're starting to come across as an uppity know it all who thinks he has the only or best answer. Guess what, you might, but only for you.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
